OTC: Maas Not Happy With Chiefs’ Not-So-New Nose
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jojo
fuck you guys trying to analyze the game…its
a win and thats what counts!
jojo
no wonder all these “analysts” are stuck in
kc….they try to overanalyze everything…
all of you “experts” need to shut the fuck
up and be glad the chiefs won the game.
Its great to win…so take your negative b.s.
and use it on the royals…
I see the cheifs as 4-0 in first part of season..
take that all you experts and shove it!
jojo
Cheifs….
undefeated…
In first place…
No losses….
Tied for best record in NFL
WOW….let us enjoy this for a few days!
jojo
get better coverage at arrowheadpride.com…
current…fresh and not so negative.
JimmyD
My KC Star didn’t arrive until 9am. I really miss Neilbonics. What’s he doing these days?
jojo
did you Hear lj had to pay 350k to girl he spit
drink at?
Arte
I saw that Pena/Chen interview too. I thought maybe I just didn’t know what Pena looked like. Wow that’s better than a Saturday Night Live skit.
By the way, Kietzman is extremely anti-Obama. Since I’ve been told this– I notice he goes out of his way to say how bad the economy is. Listen closely and he slips it in on nearly every subject.
MoCrash
I’ve yet heard anyone intelligently address Berry’s play. To wit: castigating him for both Gates’ catches and for being too quick to support the run and allowing the deep pass.
Wait a second, it can’t be both. If Berry is playing strong safety in a man-to-man, then Gates is likely his responsibility. If he’s playing free safety, then Gates isn’t his primary responsibility. And how often were the Chiefs even in man-to-man coverage; they often use cover-two or cover-four schemes, and if no receiver is in his zone, then run support is his main priority. He did miss a couple of tackles, though … so I guess can be labeled a Bust after his NFL debut (although if that’s the case, let’s review Deron Cherry’s first game).
If someone can actually evaluate Berry based on the defense the Chiefs are actually using on a given play, and what Berry’s responsibility is on that given play, then I’ll be interested. I don’t know; he may have stunk, but blaming him for both Gates’ receptions and Naanee’s TD is probably contradictory.
Cliffy
jojo … I’ve heard of guys paying $350 for girls who spit.
Stevo
GH I think you’re WAY off the mark when it comes to Eric Berry. I agree 100% that he had a bad game. Where I don’t agree is with your point that a safety’s first job is to stop the big play and not to MAKE big plays.” That is correct when your talking about an ordinary safety…but not with a safety you took at #5. For Berry to have value and play up to his contract, he needs to be a Polomalu…all over the field, making the big hit, intercepting balls, borderline dirty hits across the middle to make receivers and rb’s think twice…AND HE NEEDS TO PREVENT THE BIG PLAY. If you ever watch Polomalu play, he does actually give up a number of deep passes. When he does defend them well you’ll see him flying in at the last second to break up the pass. Happens ever single game for Pittsburgh. THAT is what Berry needs to be to live up to his draft spot and his contract. Nothing less. It seems to me you’re calling for EB to be a typical, “safety” Safety. I, for one, am glad they’re giving him some rope and letting him learn. I don’t know if he is good enough to be a Polomalu or Reed but he needs to at least model his game after them.
smartman
Polomalu and Reed are great at their positions because they have attitude-athleticism and INTELLIGENCE. To be a GREAT safety in the NFL you gotta have it goin’ on between the ears.
If you pay attention to interviews you’ll see that the safety’s are usually the most articulate players on defense.
I don’t think Eric Berry has the mental horsepower to be a Pro Bowl safety.
We’ll see what his work habits are and if he’s up to spending an EXTRA 10 to 20 hours a week studying film and getting inside the head(s) of the opposition. It doesn’t matter what the defensive scheme is the safety is there to stop the BIG PLAY. If you can MAKE the big play too all the better.
While at LSU a professor asked Glenn Dorsey to use the word pasteurized in a sentence; He said, “Durin’ hercane Katrina da watah in pots of nawlins was up past yer eyes!
JoHawk
Kietzman used the first 10 minutes of his Tuesday show polishing Pioli
Billy Bob
Dorsey plays Defensive End in the 3-4, not the nose. Edwards and Smith rotate at the nose. Surprised Maas didn’t know that.
The KC Eye
Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t Dorsey play defensive end now? So the nose tackle comments by Maas are either taken out of context or he’s confused.
The Michael Coleman stuff is golden, though. The beauty of the Brayan Pena/Bruce Chen thing is that it’s likely no one had any idea that the player talking was Chen, not Pena, because it’s likely they haven’t watched a Royals game in 15 years.
Check out my blog on the Chiefs MNF game here.
The Independent Rage
Incessant complaining following wins doesn’t just grate on the Border Patrol guys! Yes, Cassel is a mediocre NFL QB. So go on about it forever and ever! Do you want to see Croyle in there instead? The Chiefs have no better option at the moment. So criticize the Chiefs front office for bringing in Cassel. That’s very legitimate. But making that criticism for the 1000th time inside of three days gets very boring. Come up with some new material, Chiefs fan and GH! It’s not so hard. I do it every day. As I often say, JUST DON’T BORE ME.
MoCrash
@smartman: Correct that Polamalu and Reed are superior safeties, but they don’t play the same position. Polamalu is a strong safety and Reed a free safety, and the Steelers and Ravens use different coverage schemes, meaning their safeties have varying responsibilities. If we’re going to analyze the play of a safety, it’s important to understand the scheme and what he’s supposed to do in that scheme. So far, no one that I have heard or read have done that; instead, they just lump it all together and make pronouncements based on premises which could very well be false.
I’m not giving Berry a pass, and as a rookie he’s going to make mistakes, but the notion of switching him to CB — a less important position in a cover-two scheme — after one game is ludicrous.
Fed
I’m glad to see that I’m not the only person getting tired of Nick’s contstant “and you guys know” reminders. If we knew, you wouldn’t have to keep reminding us. Quit polishing your own bedknob dillweed.
smartman
@mocrash. I agree but unless somebody gets their hands on a Chiefs D-Playbook we’ll never know what Berry is supposed to do.
Since the safety’s are the last line of defense I do know from watching too many episodes of Inside the NFL that safety’s have more flexibility in adapting to what is happening in any defensive scheme, as opposed to “staying home”
I think that safety is the hardest defensive position for a rookie to learn. You can’t just be a Kamikaze you’ve gotta be a Spartan. I think the only way you get to be great at that position is through experience and by studying film.
No doubt Eric Berry has the physical and emotional tools and skills. I question his ability to get Sun Tzu-like with the mental part of the game.
dp
Smartman- “I don
JimmyD
Hey Smartman, the strongest part of Berry’s game was the mental part…according to combine scouts and experts. He’s played ONE regular season game against the best tight end in football on a sloppy field. Stick to what you do best, making fun of black guys’ speech and vocabulary
KHELM
Greg,
I listened to Maas and you have completely blown the main point of your whole article. First of all, Dorsey is playing end and not nose. While Maas was not overly high on Dorsey’s play, he said he kept fighting the whole game and was more determined than he had seen him. When he said he would have been embarrassed if he got blown off the ball like that, he was referring to Shawn Smith (who was actually rotating at nose tackle along with Ron Edwards). If you listen to the tape again, it’s clear as day who he is talking about. Again, Dorsey plays end, not nose.