One of the most terrifying aspects of life in a totalitarian society is the way the State demands that loyalty to the regime and its ideology takes precedence over all other human bonds…
In Stalin’s Soviet Union the government relied heavily on mutual surveillance; urging families to report on each other for disloyalty. The Whisperers: Private Life In Stalin’s Russia. BBC broadcast, 12-22-2007.
So important was this idea that there arose a cult of martyrdom around a 13 year-old boy named Pavlik Morozov. Morozov was a member of the Soviet youth group, the Young Pioneers, in 1932, when he turned in his own father for the heinous crime of hoarding grain. (This was during the period when Russian agriculture was being “collectivized,” i.e. the peasant’s land being taken over for government collective farms.)
After Pavlik’s father was taken to a labor camp by the secret police (the GPU) and executed, Pavlik’s family members supposedly murdered him out of revenge.
The Soviet government quickly used this incident to start a propaganda campaign enshrining the youngster as a true hero of the Soviet Union. Morozov was held up as a model for emulation for all patriotic youth and his memory enshrined through schools and youth groups renamed in his honor.
It was only 60 years later, after the fall of Communism, that the truth came out, i.e., the whole story was fabricated. Stalin’s allies in the press and among intellectuals had eagerly promulgated this myth because it suited the purposes of the regime, i.e. to keep the populace frightened and compliant for fear of being betrayed by their own families.
Fast forward from 1932 to 2021…
We now have dozens, if not hundreds ,of American Pavlik Morozovs who have been lauded by the Federal government and the American news media for betraying family and friends for their participation in January 6th. (A dedicated web site has been set up for informants to contact the F.B.I., fbi.gov/us capitol.)
The following stories appeared in American news outlets following January 6th:
*** Dozens of Capitol rioters were turned in by childhood friends, family members, colleagues and ex-lovers who watched them storm the building. CBS News, 3-9-21
*** The people who turned in their parents for their role in the Capitol attack. The Guardian, 1-7-22
*** A son explains why he turned in his father over the January 6th attack. N.P.R., 3-3-22
*** Pushed to the edge by the Capitol riot, people are reporting their family and friends to the F.B.I. Washington Post, 1-16-21.
*** Capitol rioter sentenced to 7 years in prison was turned in by his teenage son, which broke up his family. Business Insider, 8-2-22.
*** A Mass teen reportedly spotted her family at a MAGA event prior to the Capitol riot. He decided to call them out. The Boston Globe, 1-13-21.
There are a number of other stories in the same vein.
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What is striking about all such accounts is that nowhere is there any doubt expressed on whether we really want to have a society where informing on family and friends is considered the highest form of patriotism. In fact, the authors of these accounts undermine their own credibility by making lame excuses for these acts of betrayal:
1. ‘Family members who turned in January 6th protesters were no different than Unabomber Ted Kaczynski’s brother, who turned him into the Feds.’
Sorry folks, the Unabomber killed or maimed thirty-two people before he was arrested. None of the 968 people charged for January 6th have done anything remotely comparable to Kaczynski’s actions.
2. ‘Family members were driven by concerns over their loved ones increasingly radical extremist beliefs. ‘I thought the protesters were prosecuted for their actions on January 6th. Is challenging the outcome of a presidential election, which is, after all, based on an opinion or belief, now an indictable offense?
3. ‘The January 6th protesters were predominantly white so asking for equal treatment with the George Floyd protesters is to highlight the racial tension inherent in their arguments, since the Floyd protesters were more diverse. ‘How dare you ask for equal treatment under the law, you white supremacist! (Never mind that a large percentage of the January 6th protesters were non-white, with Asian-Americans particularly numerous.)
4.’ The January 6th protesters were just the latest and worst manifestations of white nationalist extremism.’ The problem is that the liberal press has since learned that the January 6 protesters did not match the profile of members of right-wing extremist groups. Those arrested and charged were older (average age 40), better educated (professionals and business owners, as well as retired military) and not members of recognized extremist groups. Of course, this just makes them more dangerous, according to liberal pundits!
5. ‘The January 6th protesters were different from the Floyd protesters in that the latter wasn’t an attack on the very core constitutional processes, nor were they an attack on the United Sates Congress.’ Kent Greenfield, a professor at Boston College Law School.
Reuters news service ran the following story:
‘The FBI has found scant evidence that the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result.The FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then President Trump.” Reuters, 8-21-2021.
If there was no organized plot or conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election by those who entered the capitol, how was this a direct assault on American democracy?
By contrast the BLM movement started in 2014 in the wake of the Trayvon Martin incident.There were numerous protests over black men allegedly murdered by the police in the years before George Floyd’s death, e.g., Eric Garner, Freddie Grey, Michael Brown, etc. (BLM had representatives traveling with Hillary Clinton as part of her 2016 campaign, i.e. Mothers of the Movement). Within three days of the news of Floyd’s death, there were protests in 75 cities and the next day in over 120 cities.
Eleven policemen have been killed during BLM protests and a thousand policemen injured. Twenty-five other people have died. 1.5 billion dollars in private property has been destroyed. Government buildings have been fire bombed; including a police station, a federal courthouse and an ICE office. All told, the damages due to the George Floyd protest were 1,000 times greater than the damages to the Capitol on January 6th, 2021.
14,000 rioters were arrested during the Floyd protests. So far less than 1% of them have been tried and convicted, i.e., 120 people all told. The Guardian, a British publication not noted for its right-wing bias, stated: “The vast majority of citations and charges against George Floyd protesters were ultimately dropped, dismissed or otherwise not filed according to a Guardian analysis of law enforcement and media reports in a dozen jurisdictions around the nation.”4-17-21. By contrast, almost all the January 6th protesters have been zealously pursued and prosecuted, with suspects still arrested every day and the government vowing to arrest another thousand people so that everyone that was at the Capitol will be criminally prosecuted. 475 of the 968 arrested have already been prosecuted and convicted, fully fifty percent of those apprehended versus less than 1% of the Floyd protesters.
In short, there is no comparing the two events, a protest that got out of hand but was quickly suppressed (January 6th) and a planned series of riots that went on four months but only stopped at the express direction of BLM’s allies in the media and among Democratic office holders (the Floyd protests).
See The Secret History of the Shadow Plan to Save the 2020 Election, Molly Ball, Time Magazine, February 4, 2021.
While the BLM/ANTIFA toll of violence and destruction has been deliberately suppressed, the aftermath of January 6th has been exaggerated and blown way out of proportion.
There’s nothing surprising about that, given that any semblance of objectivity has long been dropped by the national media. What is surprising, as I noted earlier, is that no individual journalist has expressed any qualms about family members, work colleagues, and childhood friends being turned in for political reasons.
In fact, some commentators took it as hilarious that ex-spouses or romantic partners were turned into the authorities, i.e. ‘I will never find it not hilariously funny that over 300 insurrectionists were turned into law enforcement by their ex-wives.’
This awkward and pretentious gibe has been made into a meme on the internet, found hilarious by the feeble minded, hateful woke propaganda from the Deep State. I’m sure that all these ex-spouses and romantic partners were driven solely by worry about Our Democracy. Personal animosity or revenge didn’t play into their motives at all! Nor did the $42 million dollars paid out in 2021 by the FBI to tipsters!
FBI Field Agent Anthony D’Antuono, not coincidentally involved in the Whitmer kidnapping hoax ,made the following announcement right after January 6th:“Even your friends and family are tipping us off. So, you might want to consider turning yourself in instead of wondering when we’re going to come knocking on your door-because we will find you.”The Independent (U.K.) 1-28-21.
All this was anticipated more than 75 years ago by George Orwell in his book, 1984.
The protagonist, Winston Smith, is being tortured to confess to a series of political crimes(you know, like believing misinformation or engaging in election denial). His interrogator, known only as O’Brien, and he have the following exchange:
“How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?’
Winston thought: ‘By making him suffer? ‘,he said.
‘Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. We have cut the links between child and parent and between man and man and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer’.”
Orwell’s dystopian future – based on an authoritarian present he personally lived through – has finally arrived.
Yep according to Sutherland “snitches be bitches” just like the gang banger’s. Small difference between those protesting the killing of blacks by the police, and attempting to overturn the results of an election. Chastising Americans who put the union above personal relationships, much like those who took up arms to defeat the Nazi’s.
Join the Gang Bangers…..ooops I mean republicans that hate America when they lose, yep losers. The loser’s who are against the Ukrainian fight for democracy, loser’s who are more interested in a laptop that in 5 years has resulted in a big ball of nothing, than in insuring the democratic process.
Loser’s gonna whine.
All of the January 6th protesters should be pardon. If Lt. Michael Byrd can be cleared of any wrong doing so can all the others who have been rounded up to have done wrong. If Lt. Michael Byrd had been a white man who killed a black protester I have no doubt there would have been a different outcome.
Black protesters storm our streets causing millions in damages and how many face being held responsible for those actions? Look at Mayor Lucas and his raised fist antics that had to be fuel to all the damage later done on the Plaza and other locations yet he is still free to walk the streets and countless others were not charged as well. A white couple in St Louis try to defend their property from a mob but face charges from a black prosecutor with a long history of wrongdoing.
West coast protesters as well did millions in damage and where was the demand for justice for all those crimes at?
This willy nilly style of holding people responsible for their actions has to stop. This willy nilly form of who can and who can’t protest has to as well come to an end. Look at the Clay Chastain incident of late as all you need to see there. If Clay was black do you think the black Mayor of Kansas City would push for what’s happening?
Justice is suppose to be blind so they say but it appears that such a saying or thoughts is no longer relevant in our legal system. Nobody is supposed to be above the law. Well in America you sure can be depending on what cause you support, what political party you support or the color of your skin.
In 1956 Russia’s Communist leader Nikita Khrushchev said, “We will take America without firing a shot. We do not have to invade the U.S. We will destroy you from within….” This is the woke left’s goal. They must be stopped.
“Interrogator O’Brien”….any relation to Buzz??
Think about what you are saying. In the most publicized such incident,involving a teenager from Texas who turned in four members of his family, the young informer contacted the FBI weeks BEFORE January 6th. Other people were turned in for walking on the Capital lawn and had never actually entered the building. Yet others were turned in for attending the Trump rally BEFORE the riot at the Capital. All these show that their estranged family members had been previously angered by the views of those arrested and were looking for ways to punish them for their beliefs.,whether or not they did anything wrong on January 6th.
Hate America when they lose? Name me one Republican president after Eisenhower that Democrats regard as legitimate. I’m willing to wait on this one. Let’s also look at the record as far as violently contesting the outcome of a presidential election. In 2001 and 2005 left wing militants disrupted the Bush inaugurations with violence. In 2017 the Trump inauguration was also disrupted with violence,with the bulk of Democrats vowing to resist and obstruct his administration in any way possible,with Tim Kaine,senator and vp nominee, calling for fighting in the streets. In 2018 300 protesters had to be arrested and removed from the Capital for disrupting the confirmation hearings for Brett Kavanaugh. A dozen protesters actually got into the Senate chamber and interrupted the roll call vote on his confirmation before being forcibly removed.This is audible on the C-Span coverage of the vote. An hour later 158 protesters were arrested at the Supreme Court building for trying to force their way in to stop his swearing in as a Justice. The Republican Convention delegates in 2020 were attacked by Antifa and BLM as they left the White House.Bad losers? You guys invented the concept!
Uncle,I think.
“We don’t teach love in our country, we only teach hate”
FF 2023
Or, hear me out. Or…….don’t break the fucking law. None of those brain washed rubes from January 6th give 2 shits about patriotism. None. They swallowed all the bullshit about their lord and savior being cheated out of an election. Or the worldwide cabal of pedo’s that drink children’s blood. Or that JFK Jr was still alive and going to reveal himself in Dallas. Or Trump was secretly running the gov’t from a bunker in Florida. Let’s not mistake any of those traitors on January 6th for critical thinkers.
Sure are a shitload of “tourists” from that day staring at the walls in a 6×8 concrete room. Weird.
I got news for ya. If I recognized someone busting out windows and assaulting officers, I would contact local law enforcement without a single reservation. You can’t say you love America and then hate all of the people in it. Oh, I mean all of the people that don’t believe in your “god” and don’t agree with your politics. Everyone else is fine.
Imagine Q-Anon followers being so dumb as to believe that there is a sex ring trafficking in underage girls, pandering to some of the most wealthy and powerful people in the country. (Jeffrey Epstein,Bill Clinton,Bill Gates call your offices!) Your hatred and contempt for your political opponents is so blind and irrational that you can’t even concede that they have any rights at all under the Constitution,not the least of which is equal justice under the law. I should remind you the Democratic Party may not always hold the White House. You seem oblivious to the fact that you may be starting a terrible cycle of retribution and revenge. I like to think we as a country are better than that but your vicious and ugly comments make me wonder.
Interesting that you left out Trump in the “world wide cabal of sex trafficking”. Wonder why? He’s knee deep in the Epstein shit, pal. If anybody is/was part of that….charge them. Try them. Lock them up if found guilty. That’s how your CONSTITUTIONAL rights work. Every single one of the traitors that was part of January 6th will have their day in court. It’s quite obvious that the constitution and the peaceful transfer of power didn’t mean shit to them. Screaming that their constitutional rights are now being violated is pretty rich.
What the Q-Anon morons believe isn’t even worth a discussion. They are all batshit crazy and are completely out of touch with reality.
If crimes were committed then people need to be charged. They should face a jury of their peers and present all the evidence possible of their innocence. If they are found guilty, they should be sentenced. In MY world, that is the justice system. In YOUR world, that is retribution.
I’ll repeat it for the people in the back. If you break the law, I don’t care if you are black, white, republican, democrat, atheist, buddhist, hindu, young, old, et al. You should be help responsible for your own actions. Pretty simple.
It’s so great dealing with trolls with your level of sophistication. I’m only too happy to mention Epstein. Trump was glad to bum rides on the latter’s jet from New York to Palm Beach.He then found out that Epstein had propositioned the fifteen year old daughter of a guest at Mar-A-Lago and barred him for life from the club. In other words,Trump recognized the guy as a perv and distanced himself from Epstein while Billy Bob was still racking up Frequent Flyer Miles on the Lolita Express to Fantasy Island.(Still think that was a winning argument?) Leslie Wexner
You can call for prosecuting any one who breaks the law because you know Democratic prosecutors will rarely charge Democratic politicians or their supporters. If they are charged,they will be acquitted by highly partisan Democrat juries in New York and Washington,D.C. I have given you a vivid example in the contrasting treatment of the George Floyd and the January 6th protesters. Look at the absurd legal gymnastics the Soros backed DA in New York has used to indict Trump versus the equally absurd rationalizations James Comey used to drop any charges against Hillary for violating the law on disclosing sensitive documents. Look at the way Mueller(I should say Andrew Weismann)squeezed innocent people like Carter Page to go after Trump in the Russia Gate investigation. Compare this with the FBI cover up of the Biden crime family’s taking millions of dollars in bribes from suspicious foreign sources. I can martial all the evidence and logic in the world but people like you are like the characters in George Orwell’s Animal Farm: “Four Legs Good, Two Legs Bad!”. In your case it’s “Orange Man and All Republicans Bad! Biden and All Democrats Good!”
LMFAO. I love the way you defend the character of Trump when he found out something about Epstein. The guy who was fucking wife #2 while married to wife #1. The guy that was fucking wife #3 while married to wife #2. The guy that was fucking a porn star while married to wife #3 who just had his 5th child with a 3rd mother. I realize you worship at the alter of the Mango Mussolini, but trying to defend the amoral character of Trump is just too much. I’d have more respect for you if you just admitted you don’t give a shit about character. It’s all about the “R” after their name on the ballot. Good for you.
I loath most all politicians. Republican and democrat alike. I’ve voted for both my entire life. It’s typically a matter of the lesser of two evils. I have enough intelligence to be able to make that decision. Paint me as some democrat sycophant if you wish. Nothing could be further from the truth.
The fact that Trump has been a lifelong grifter, liar and generally a horrid human being made that choice easy.
This is preposterous. If you really chose candidates based on sexual morality you wouldn’t have voted for a serial rapist(Bill Clinton) or his enabler(Hillary Clinton) or someone who showered with his pubescent daughter(Joe Biden).This fake outrage is just an excuse to distract attention from the two tiered system of justice we have seen in this country from the uniparty that is clearly running the show You have not countered any of the facts I’ve alleged but just engaged in name calling. Cut your losses.
Sexual morality? I couldn’t care less who you fuck. My point is that those in glass houses…….
You and those like you hold Trump up as some pillar of Christianity and he being the “chosen one”. The dozens of sexual assault/rape accusations not withstanding. He wouldn’t know which side of a bible to open. His 4 years in the WH was a gigantic grift by him and his entire family. In 4 short years, he managed to lose the house the senate and the white house. Quite an accomplishment for someone of his limited intelligence.
FYI, Einstein. There has ALWAYS been a two-tiered system of justice in this country and it doesn’t have shit to do with any political party. As a silver-spooned boy, you know exactly what I’m talking about. Those with money get one type of justice and those without money get a far different type of justice.
Facts you allege? They can’t be facts AND be alleged. That’s like saying I allege that 2+2=4.
No problem with Kushner’s $2 billion dollars from Saudi Arabia? No problem with the 18 trademarks granted to Ivanka from China in a 2 month period? No problem with the dozen or so people charged with crimes in the Trump administration and convicted? No problem with the pardons given to members of his own administration?
All of that is just fine in the GOP universe. But charging people with crimes when they are caught on tape COMMITTING those crimes? That’s out of bounds and purely political. Two-tiered justice system, I say!!
Go ahead and defend everything the Republican party has become. It ain’t what it used to be, buddy. Openly supporting white supremacists, antisemitism, bigots, conspiracy theorists and seditionists would have been something that was denounced 20-25 years ago. Now they are welcomed with open arms.
None of these groups have ANY platforms or policies other than telling people that THEIR plight is because of the OTHER people who don’t think or look like them. They have NO solutions. Just blame. That is the current GOP. It should be renamed the party of KARENS.
Congratulations.
You could care less who a candidate sleeps with? Why did we have a long exegesis on Trump’s personal life as somehow justifying violating the rights of his supporters ? Two tiered system of justice? Yes, but it’s now not just between rich and poor. I know a little about this because I got the Kansas City Bar Association award for legal services to the poor,silver spoon and all. The divide now is also between those who are part of groups who support the Democratic Party and those who aren’t. I can tell you about that as well,but you will not even address the specific examples I’ve already given. You cannot ‘allege’facts?Every law suit , civil or criminal, starts with a pleading that alleges facts that are the basis of the case. You then have to prove those facts at trial. The adjective”alleged”applied to facts does not mean those ‘facts’are dubious or false but simply have not been proven yet but have been stated. The GOP is unrecognizable compared to twenty years ago? George W Bush was president then and he was denounced repeatedly as a racist by Democrats. ( The Democratic leader in the US Senate at the time, Robert Byrd,was a former paid organizer for the KKK. )In fact, every Republican President in my life time has been accused of racism. This idea that you respected the GOP twenty or twenty five years ago is ridiculous for anyone who lived through that era or who can read what was actually said at the time. The entire range of Democratic discourse is; a) Trump is an a——-e !,b) You’re a racist!, c) Where did you hear that? Fox News? You have the same mindset, with your rabid views unshakeable by either evidence or reason.