The debate whether the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election was fairly conducted has been so bitterly and so viciously waged that it’s hard to see how the truth will ever come out…
(It may take 50 or 60 years if the 1960 election is any indication.)
Neither side has exactly covered itself in glory in that regard, with wild claims and allegations that call into question those who made them’s credibility.
It’s the electoral equivalent of the run up to the First World War, with all the participants so recklessly escalating their rhetoric that it made it difficult to stand down.
In fact, it was uncomfortably close to the kind of disputed election outcomes, complete with threats by the military to intervene, that we see in Third World countries.
I see two issues in considering the fairness of how the election was conducted.
The first is whether it was rigged by those in authority to get the outcome they wanted. Rigging means “to arrange in a dishonest way for selfish advantage; manipulate fraudulently; fix;/ to rig an election.” Webster’s New World Dictionary (1982), p. 1225.
It’s hard to claim that this didn’t happen after the victors openly bragged about doing it.
In a Time Magazine story published February 4th – The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved The 2020 Election – liberal journalist Molly Ball indulged in an extended gloatathon on how a “conspiracy” or “cabal” (her words, not mine) of “well-funded powerful people” were able to get “the desired outcome” to the 2020 election.
Virtually every significant American institution from the AFL-CIO to Silicon Valley, to the Chamber of Commerce, to Black Lives Matter and every other left-wing group under the sun were united in this crusade to “save” not just the 2020 election but American democracy itself.
At this point it’s necessary for the unitiated to get out your Captain Midnight Decoder rings to understand what’s being said:
When a Democratic candidate for President loses to a Republican that means democracy is threatened. After all, a small “d” democracy is only truly healthy when the big “D” Democratic Party wins all elections and holds all power.
According to Ball, the anti-Trump Resistance got states to “change voting systems.”
That’s a euphemism for eliminating safeguards against election fraud; like photo I.D, signature requirements, and showing a chain of custody in the handling of ballots. Conversely, we’re told that the Resistance fought “voter suppression” lawsuits, which translates as any legal effort to prevent time honored Democratic methods like vote harvesting, e.g. paying party workers for each ballot collected from nursing home residents.
Ball also brags that the Resistance plotters “successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder stand against ‘disinformation’ and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears.”
This is, of course, code for stopping coverage of stories damaging to the Biden campaign like the Hunter Biden laptop expose in the New York Post by blocking it on Twitter.
What is the most surprising disclosure is her boast that the anti-Trump cabal funneled hundreds of millions of dollars in public and private funds to local election officials to “ensure the proper outcome of the election.”
What if wealthy conservative billionaires like Robert Mercer and Tim Mellon had funneled such sums ($500 million) towards efforts to get out the GOP vote? Democrats and/or liberals would have been outraged.
Private money should not go to election officials to get the results the donors want, any more than private money should go to state court systems, local prosecutors’ officers, or state attorneys general to ensure legal outcomes which benefit the donors and harm the donor’s adversaries.
I’m sure there are a lot of people who don’t like Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates but we can’t just write checks to the U.S. Department of Justice Anti-trust Division to go after them as monopolists. So why should Mark Zuckerberg get to pay state and local election officials to bend the laws to defeat Donald Trump?
Of course, Molly Ball would say that these average, every day, Silicon Valley and Wall Street billionaires were not really working to defeat Trump.
The “desired outcome” they were working to ensure she repeatedly insists (through the deeply noble, public-spirited left-wing activists she quotes at length in her article) was a decisive, clear-cut result so that the country might be spared a divisive, protracted election dispute.
Funny, I seem to recall these same people not dropping their outrage over the 2000 Florida recount for at least a year after the election.
The New York Times and Washington Post spent a million dollars in a “study” to show that the Supreme Court “stole” the election on behalf of George Bush. Nor do I recall concerns by these same people about protracted disputes over Senate elections, particularly when apparent Republican victories on election night disappeared after more Democratic ballots were “found” in car trunks, broom closets, etc.
I wish I’d known Ball’s argument when I was trying lawsuits.
That way, if I’d been caught bribing jurors, I’d just say I wasn’t trying to get a verdict for my client but was only trying to avoid a deadlocked jury to insure trust in the legal system. I wasn’t rigging a jury, I was “fortifying it “or “saving it.”
Whatever term you prefer, “fortifying”, “saving”, or “rigging”, the election, Molly Ball’s article makes clear that all the significant institutions in today’s America – Big Tech, Big Pharma, the media, corporate board rooms and executive suites, organized labor, and every liberal foundation, not-for-profit, as well as the top brass in the military – all met and plotted together to discredit and drive Trump from office.
This effort began in the permanent bureaucracy and amongst Democratic office holders in 2016 and continues to this day.
That this is anything but a grass roots movement is also inadvertently (but powerfully) revealed by Ms. Ball. She notes that the leaders of the protests from the summer of 2020, BLM and “others” (Antifa et al.) told their followers to curtail their protests until after the election.
(If Trump won, of course, they were to take to the streets, hence all the boarded-up windows in the last days leading to the vote.)
As Don ( “Stinky Fingers”)Lemon said, this burning of cities had to stop, not because it was wrong but because it wasn’t polling well last summer in CNN’s internal polls.
Changing the rules in the middle of the game or ignoring the rules so your side will win is not a fair and honest way to run an election.
It’s even more unfair and dishonest when you wrap yourself in the flag of public health to push through “reforms,” which are naked partisan power grabs you’ve long sought.
The second issue that has to be decided is whether actual fraudulent votes were cast that determined the outcome.
Determining this is much tougher, for one very simple reason: We have had secret ballots in this country for most of our history. The reason was to prevent voters from being retaliated against if they didn’t vote the way their employer or some local political boss wanted them to.
That is the upside, i.e. once a ballot is cast it can’t be tied back to a particular voter. The downside is that even if it was cast by someone who was a felon, a non-citizen, using the name of a dead person, someone who voted twice, etc., there is no way to go back into the ballot box and retrieve the ballot and invalidate it.
Once a vote is cast it can’t be uncast.
A vivid example of this is found in the Democratic primary for state representative in northeast Kansas City, Missouri in 2010.
The primary result was very close, 664 votes for J.J. Rizzo and 663 for Will Royster.
Royster filed suit after the recount which arrived at these numbers. He presented persuasive evidence of fraudulent votes by Rizzo supporters. Specifically, he alleged that a number of Rizzo’s family members from outside the district had voted and that a Rizzo supporter brought in three non-English speakers immigrants from Somalia to one polling place and instructed them how to vote. (Other election observers say as many as 30 other Somali voters came into polling places and were instructed how to vote by Rizzo workers.)
Even though ultimately two of Rizzo’s family plead guilty to vote fraud, the election was not set aside.
This despite persuasive evidence that upwards of 50 Rizzo votes were illegal in a race which was decided in his favor by one vote. We do not allow do-overs, no matter how questionable the results because there was no way to conclusively prove that those 50 votes were in fact cast for Rizzo and determined the outcome.
That said, I don’t think there is any way to “overturn” the 2020 U.S. Presidential election, if by “overturn” you mean void the outcome and ordering a do over.
However, we do need to know if fraud occurred to make sure it doesn’t happen again in the future.
With that caveat I think there are numerous examples of what we call in the law “badges of fraud”.
This is defined as; “A circumstance which does not alone prove fraud, but which warrants inference of fraud, especially where there is a concurrence of many such badges.” Black’s Law Dictionary, p.176 (1968)
This is another reason why Molly Ball’s article describing last year’s election as “fortifying” belief in the electoral system gets it exactly wrong.
A Trump victory in 2020 would not have resembled the outcome in a Third World country. It was the manner in which his defeat was engineered, lovingly described by Ms. Ball, that made the November 2020 U.S. election resemble recent elections in Venezuela or Zimbabwe.
Don’t take my word for it. Read an article on the BBC from September 2, 2016, “Vote Rigging: How To Spot The Tell Tale Signs.”
Based on interviews with professional election observers with deep experience in Third World countries, it lists six hallmarks of election fraud. They are as follows:
- “Watch the turnout figures-they can be a big giveaway. You never get a 98% or 99% turnout. You just don’t.” Hundreds of heavily Democratic precincts- especially in the five swing states that switched from Trump in 2016 to Biden in 2020-showed 90% turnout, some 100%. The Orlando Weekly reported that 105% of registered voters in a precinct at the University of Central Florida voted in the 2020 general electio.Now I understand that there is same day registration, which explains the 5% over the 100% of voters registered prior to the election. In that precinct, the newspaper said, the 100% turnout of all prior registered voters was “charming” but “improbable.” I would suggest that it is not “charming” if someone casts your vote for you. Otherwise, the only explanation is that there was incredible social pressure not just to vote but to vote a certain way, which is only slightly less “charming.” No one should be pressured how to vote by coercion or social ostracism in their community, which I suggest is what was probably at work in this “charming” but “improbable” result from Florida.
- “A high turnout in specific area- Even where the turnout is within the bounds of possibility, if the figure is wildly different from elsewhere, it serves as a warning.” Democratic turnout in heavily Blue areas was significantly higher in the swing states than in the Blue areas of non-swing states. There was much higher turnout in inner city wards in Milwaukee and Detroit than in Chicago and Cleveland, even though their demographics and partisan makeup were the same. Again, in substantially similar areas there was a big difference depending on whether it was a swing state.
By the same token, Biden under-performed Hillary in New York and Los Angeles. Nowhere was this more dramatically than in Compton, California, a notorious L.A. ghetto. Biden’s showing there was the weakest of any Democratic candidate in 50 years. This tells me that inner city residents’ votes were cast for them by Democratic operatives as needed in the critical swing states but not bothered with elsewhere.
- “Large numbers of invalid votes- There are other more subtle ways that (election) riggers can increase votes or reduce them.”
The percentage of mail in ballots last year that were invalidated for any reason fell drastically from prior years. Election officials ignored flaws in ballots where the voters’ signatures were missing, where the ballots were not witnessed, where they were not in a sealed envelope, or were not received until after election day.
The zeal on the part of election officials to count Democratic ballots that would have been invalid previously was such that the percentage of mail in votes invalidated fell 80% on average from prior years. (Given the fact that so many were voting by mail the first time, the error rate should have risen!) So eager were election officials (inspired no doubt by “Zuckbucks,” the $419 million the Z-man funneled into state and local election boards) that they even opened sealed ballots before election day-in violation of state law- so that voters could come in and remedy any flaws or oversights that would otherwise cause their ballots to be rejected. (This courtesy, needless to say, was only done in Democratic leaning areas.)
- “More votes than ballots issued.”
In Arizona there were 75,000 more mail in ballots sent back then were mailed out. Democratic apologists argued that the extra ballots were actually advance ballots by people who came in and voted in person. They can’t tell you how many advance ballots were cast in person. It turns out there were 38,000 such ballots, which accounts for a little over half the discrepancy. Even if the full 75,000 vote overage had been explained away in this fashion, it would also have to mean that 100% of the mailed-out ballots were returned, which is an impossibility. (The same kind of disparities occurred in other states, with no more cogent explanation offered than in Arizona.)
- “Results that don’t match-It is now standard practice to allow party agents, observers, and sometimes even voters to watch the counting process.”
In 2020 in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Atlanta Republican election observers were either asked to leave the counting centers or only allowed to watch the process at such a distance that they couldn’t monitor the count. Not surprisingly, in Georgia several precincts reported vote counts on so-called “tally sheets” that were substantially different from what actually happened. For example, one precinct tally sheet showed 800 votes for Biden and 0 votes for Trump, when the actual result was 554 for Biden to 246 for Trump.
- “Delay in Announcing Results- Delay is certainly dangerous, fueling rumors of results being ‘massaged’ before release and increasing tensions.”
There is a long and dishonorable Democratic tradition of its operatives holding up the announcement of vote totals from the areas they control to see how many more votes they need to win after Republican areas reported in and then manufacturing the necessary votes.
The late Richard J. Dailey (“Hizzoner”)of Chicago perfected this technique. As Mayor/Machine boss of Chicago in 1960 he held up the releasing of the Cook County returns until after the Republican areas in outstate Illinois reported. He then manufactured the votes he needed to win the state from cemeteries, vacant lots, and boarded up buildings. This is how he won Illinois for Kennedy in 1960. LBJ was working his own magic in Texas with the vote in poor Hispanic areas and delivered Texas for the ticket that same year. As Ted Kennedy used to ‘joke’, “Vote early and vote often.”
In 1968, Nixon had learned his lesson and made sure the GOP counties did not release their returns until Cook County did.
The election was still undecided the next day at 10:00 a.m. with Dailey ranting and raving about Republican “insinnuendos” until he finally gave in to pressure-since anybody could see what he was up to-and released the results from Chicago. Without the chance to fabricate votes out of thin air, Dailey machine was not able to steal the state and country for Hubert Humphrey.
This is exactly what happened last year on November 3rd.
Around 11:00 p.m. several states announced they were halting the count; Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin and Michigan.
In the wee hours, i.e. once the Democrats had figured out how many votes they needed to come up with to overcome Trump’s lead in their particular state, a torrent of Biden votes cascaded in. (So much for starting up again the next morning.)
An update in Georgia as of 1:34 a.m. showed 136,155 votes for Biden and 29,115 votes for Trump.
An update in Wisconsin as of 3:42 a.m. showed 143,258 votes for Biden and 25,113 votes for Trump.
An update in Michigan as of 3:50 a.m. showed 54,497 for Biden and 4,718 for Trump.
A further update in Michigan as of 6:31 a.m. showed 141,258 votes for Biden and 5,908 for Trump.
Only in these swing states did the early morning vote dumps of mail in ballots go so heavily in Biden’s favor. (One observer even claims he saw 138,000 votes added to Biden’s total in Michigan, with 0 votes for Trump, in the early morning hours but failed to get a screen shot.)
This is why urban precincts run by Democrats are always the last to report their results in virtually every state, i.e. they need time to figure out how many additional votes it would take to win.
The 1960 Illinois model is also revealing for another reason.
One of the standard Democratic taunts every time they get accused of stealing elections is, “Why is no one ever charged and convicted of vote fraud if its so widespread?” The obvious answer is that the local election officials who commit the fraud are the very same people who would have to detect, investigate, and charge someone with vote fraud.
As the Romans would say, “Quis custodes custodiet”? (Who guards the guardians?)
In 1960, 500 people were charged with vote fraud in Chicago but every one of the indictments was thrown out by a federal judge who was a Dailey crony.
In short, all six indicators of vote fraud listed in the 2016 BBC article were on display in 2020.
You have to hand it to the Democrats, though. They added a number of new items to their bag of tricks and were not just content to rely on their old stand-bys. As they used to say in travelogues about some tourist destination; “It’s a delightful blend of the old and new.”
For example, the Democrats have long favored extending the period to vote prior to election day, well before COVID.
The intent was to expand on the practice of “knock and drag”, i.e. sending out armies of Democratic paid canvassers to Blue precincts to track down people who had not voted by the middle of the afternoon on election day. The canvassers were instructed not to leave the dilatory voters’ doorsteps until they agreed to go to the polls and vote the Democratic ticket. Now the canvassers have weeks to camp on voters’ doorsteps and to badger them in to signing advance or mail in ballots.
Since they get paid for each ballot returned maybe the more accurate phrase now is “knock and grab”. (A single ballot drop box had 1900 such votes deposited in it by one canvasser in a single day. Nothing to see here.)
Thus, with the shift to voting by mail and the elimination of voter I.D. and signature verification, the Democratic Party was able to stuff ballot boxes on an unprecedented scale.
In Pennsylvania one batch of votes came in as 572,000 for Biden and 3,200 for Trump, 99.4% vs. 6%. Given the size of the sample, encompassing a huge demographic cross-section of voters in different communities, so one-sided an outcome is impossible.
The other new method is to use computer algorithms to change vote totals. In Georgia, 53 separate batches of votes were counted as having the exact same percentage results, down to one hundredth of one percent, each with the same margin for Joe Biden.
In Georgia, dozens of precincts showed the margin for Biden as 4,800 votes or multiples of 4,800. In other states, vote totals included fractional votes, out to the third or fourth decimal. We don’t count fractional votes in this country.
Finally, there are dozens of eyewitnesses who were willing to come forward and sign affidavits setting out instances of outright fraud by Democratic Party workers and local and state election officials. (Three of the latter were just indicted in Michigan.)
None of these claims were heard in evidentiary proceedings in the various lawsuits filed by the Trump campaign. (Even the most bare bones lawsuit-a slip and fall or dog bite-case will take a year or more of discovery before it can get to court.)
The constitutional deadline for resolving controversies over the appointment of electors by states is December 8th. Since the election was only called on November 7th for Biden, it made it impossible for them to be resolved in time to meet the cut off.
The cases that were heard were all thrown out on procedural grounds. The most significant, of course, of these cases was the action by 27 State Attorneys General which challenged the constitutionality of election law charges without action by state legislators. (So much for the argument that “all these allegations have been heard in court on the merits and have been found to be frivolous.”)
Now that the Arizona election audit is complete, we know that 32,000 votes were likely cast by ineligible voters. (Biden’s victory margin in the state was a little over 10,000 votes.)
The audit was met with fierce resistance and attacks by Democrats and the media (but I repeat myself). If there was no basis for allegations of illegal voting, why not agree to an audit, particularly on an expedited basis? (Like Trump’s allies did to Democratic demands for recounts in Michigan and Wisconsin in 2016.)
Of course, we now know why Democrats and/or the media fought it so fiercely. Even the truncated audit they finally agreed to raised serious questions as to the actual outcome in that state.
The whole liberal response to such legitimate questions about the election has been one of contemptuous and angry dismissals. They were helped by deranged Trump partisans like self-appointed advocates Lin Wood (Venezuelan hackers)and Sidney (Unleash the Kraken!) Powell; and well-meaning but over-the-hill champions like Rudy Giuliani.
Nonetheless, it is obvious that a firm but patient response, answering legitimate questions and explaining why the more far-fetched ones are unfounded would have better served the Democratic Party generally and the Biden Administration in particular.
It is not enough to say allegations are “debunked” or “unfounded” or “discredited” without offering explanations of the basis for these conclusions.
The bitter irony is that if these hard ball tactics by the Establishment were actually designed to preserve trust in American Institutions, they had the opposite effect.
By suborning the F.B.I., the C.I.A., the Justice Department, the Pentagon, the permanent Executive branch staff (including the White House) for political ends the Left has destroyed faith in these institutions by half the American people. They are like the U.S. general in Vietnam who said, “We had to destroy the village to save it.”
This, more than anything Trump ever said, set the stage for January 6th, an expression of American working-class rage and despair not seen since the 1930’s World War I Bonus Marchers.
The Woke oligarchy is already reaping the whirlwind.
Remember, revenge is never pretty.
Let’s go, Brandon!
Jesus fucking christ. You’ve gone full-on Q, Dwight. It’s weird that you have figured all of this out and nobody in the GQP can. It’s equally as strange that ONLY the democratic party was able to “take advantage” of all of the rule changes for the 2020 election. I guess with ring leaders like The Kraken, The Pillow guy and melting mayor Giuliani it isn’t hard to see why “fraud” or a “stolen” election was ever proven. The republican party has become the party of conspiracies, the big lie and grifters. Look at the fucking money scammed by anyone and everyone associated with team Trump. Isn’t this all supposed to be used for funding “stop the steal” lawsuits, audits, et al? It’s nothing but a giant grift.
The overwhelming majority of Americans grew weary of the DAILY drama, lies, hypocrisy, unprofessionalism, unqualified appointments, nepotism, greed, amoral behavior, white supremist dog-whistles and the global embarrassment that was Donald Trump. COVID was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Had Trump chosen to actually lead the country through a once in a lifetime pandemic, he would be sitting in the Oval Office now. Instead of coming out and telling Americans that we were in for the fight of our lives for the next 18 to 24 months and that we needed to do everything in our power to minimize the impact/death toll, he chose to call it another democratic hoax. That there were 11 cases and soon it would be zero. That possibly drinking bleach or shining a bright light up our asses could cure it. He managed to politicize and rail against everything that was actually going to help end it. What COVID did was expose the man and how unprepared he was during a crisis.
Occam’s Razor x 3:
The reason that Trump lost by 7 million votes was that people didn’t want to go through another 4 years of his administration. They turned out in record numbers to make sure it didn’t happen.
The reason no widespread voter fraud has been found after a YEAR of the GQP trying to prove it is because there wasn’t any. Well, other than Trump, his lawyers and cronnies trying to get the Georgia SOS to “find” 11,000 votes for him or trying to get Arizona to STOP counting ballots while he was still ahead. Other than that, nothing.
Republicans are the MINORITY in this country. Those numbers are decreasing yearly. They haven’t won the popular vote since the 80’s and probably never will again. Parties that hold the MAJORITY winning elections isn’t some mathematical anomaly. It’s just math.
Jim,you are really slipping. You brought up bleach and UVL but left out Lysol and cattle worming paste. You did’nt even mention “really good people”,I.e. Charlottesville. What about the actual number of people who saw the inaugural? Sharpie-gate? Stormy Daniels? You know the kind of thing I mean,the stuff people care about! Who cares about jobs,trade,foreign policy,energy independence when we can get outraged instead about ‘mean tweets’?
To bring it down the abstraction level, why don’t you even address the issues I raised about troubling anomalies like 46 of 47 precincts in one area of Detroit with 90% plus turnout,26 of them with 100%? Or 14 batches of vote in Pennsylvania all showing the exact same margin for Biden of 6000 votes? Do you really believe African American voters turned out in substantially higher numbers for Joe Biden than for Barack Obama? Given the tell all by Molly Ball there doesn’t seem to much room to claim that the way the election was run wasn’t to defeat Trump. Not changing the rules in the middle of the game is not a hard concept to grasp. The other thing I ask you is why bother cheating if you were going to win so easily anyway as you claim?
Plenty of states changed their voting rules because of the pandemic. How come the only ones that republicans care about are the ones that Trump lost?
The states are: Alabama, Arkansas, California, Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Vermont, West Virginia and Wisconsin.
Let’s have this conversation AFTER some actual evidence of widespread fraud being committed or anything that would materially change the results of 2020 election. It’s not like every single Republican legislature in state’s that Trump lost isn’t looking! Hell, they are wanting to do an audit in states that Trump WON. Have at it. Apparently, the fraud was so egregious that it will/can be easily proven. Ask Arizona.
You say all of those things you list don’t really matter to anyone and that nobody really cares? I would assume a large percentage 81 million people would disagree.
Is it really so hard to believe that a twice impeached guy that lost the House & Senate in 4 short years wasn’t reelected? For me, the outcome was what I suspected it would be. I thought a lot of people were probably tired of the same shit that I was tired of. Trump is simply a reprehensible human being that doesn’t give a shit about anyone or anything except himself. His own words over the last 5 years does nothing but reinforce this fact. I grew tired of it. So did millions of others that voted for him in 2016. It’s that simple, in my opinion.
We Republicans were most interested in the states which Biden carried narrowly because that is where the most obvious Democratic chicanery occurred and the election was rigged and/or stolen. You’re right,though, if there was other Democratic voting fraud elsewhere,even in Red states which Trump carried, it should also be investigated and those states voting laws tightened up to make sure it doesn’t happen again.
Unfortunately,you can’t seem to grasp my argument that the corporate oligarchy- those warm,wonderful guys Bezos,Bloomberg, Buffet, Gates,and Soros(not an egotistical jerk among them,all humble & selfless, unlike DJT)-focused their resources on the presidential race in five states.(As Election Day drew near, they did a ruthless triage,abandoning Ohio,Texas,and Florida to Trump.) This explains why the Democrats lost all 27 House races rated as tossups , and 19 of 20 bellwether counties across the country, accurate predictors of presidential outcomes for decades. This is why Trump bettered his 2016 showing among almost every demographic group. None of this would have happened if there had been The Great National Revulsion against him,as you claim. By the way, explain to me how The Bad Orange Man got 12,000,000 more votes last year than he did in 2016 if he’d alienated so many of his past supporters .How does that work.? Oh, did you catch the news out of Wisconsin yesterday? Voting dead people in nursing homes, truly another proud Democratic tradition!
I don’t know. Probably the same reason Biden got 16,000,000 more votes than Clinton did.
16,000,000 > 12,000,000
Another good debate, Dwight. Until next time.
Cheers!
+1,000,000,000, Jim.
Do I think the election was on the up and up. Nope and it isn’t because Trump lost it was just from all the silly stuff one saw taking place. And lets be honest here, if big money wanted to throw an election I’m sure they could. Some of the current election laws make cheating easier in my opinion and probably why they are in place.
The political parties have out played their usefulness. We need political leaders not gangs who act like Bloods and Crips fighting with one another all the time over money and territory.
Members of politics, the most crooked game in town and the one least likely for the members to end up in jail from.