The polls show that Donald Trump won the debate last night…
Only CNN had Hillary as the winner. Drudge was off the chart with Trump up 81% to Hillary Clinton’s 18%. Fortune more realistic at 51% Trump and 49% Clinton. True had it 58% Trump and 42% Clinton.
Are these polls accurate? How did you see it?
I think Donald Trump started off strong with his trade talk and how the current administration is terrible at foreign trade deals. Hillary came on strong with personal attacks on Trump about not paying workers in his bankrupt deals. By the way that’s a federal law, you can’t pay anyone in a bankruptcy.
Of course the debate moderator went after Trump on his taxes as expected.
Next came the Obama birther issue. All on Trump.
So the Trumpster was on his heels much of the time defending himself, but he did well. However it left him few openings to go after Clinton’s scandals. Trump brought up her missing emails only once, “I’ll show my taxes when you show your missing 31,000 emails.” That hit home but it was brief.
Trump scored well when he said, “Yes, you have 30 years of experience as a political leader but it was all bad experience.”
And Trump did a nice job on the war on terror, but again, only briefly.
Hillary was never shaken and looked calm, even peaceful.
Trump at times looked a bit agitated button his credit, never mean or truly angry.
The close was interesting.
Hillary wanted to leave the stage with a knockout shot so she went to this one: ” You call women pigs, you even said your Miss Universe was fat” and on and on.
Trump DID NOT FIGHT BACK WITH LETS TALK ABOUT YOUR MARRIAGE AND BILL CLINTON.
Instead he said later that he didn’t want to go there with Chelsea Clinton and Hillary’s family in the audience. He said he didn’t think it was needed. Meaning he felt he was already in good shape and able to show some reserve.
Whats the truth? Who won?
I’d say it was a draw.
Trump’s supporters still love him. Clinton supporters back her so it’s really up to the undecided.
My guess is people just want to make sure Donald Trump isn’t crazy,
Because they want a change most will go for Trump. He’s the show. He owns the entire media…all of it.
Hillary almost never speaks to by the media unless it’s to attack Trump.
Donald Trump is speaking daily to anyone who will listen; media, large groups,town halls anywhere and everywhere. He’s relentless. The guy probably needs a little rest; he doesn’t drink and is clearly in good shape. Hillary plays it safe and stays the course.
Clinton’s problem – and it’s a huge one IS THERE IS NO NEW NEWS
SHE HAS NO REAL, NEW PLANS. IT’S EVERYTHING IS FINE AND IF NOT I’LL FIX IT WHEN I GET AROUND TO IT…
Meaning, “I just want to be prez. I earned it”
Trump wants change and it’s clear can he do it and will he do it. We just don’t know exactly what or how. But. I think he’ll at least try.
In the end Trump won the debate BY NOT LOSING.
Hillary did a nice job, don’t get me wrong. There just was no new news and nothing to really hurt Donald. And his saying that her 30 years in public life did little to fix anything…did land.
I think by week’s end Trump will be ahead by 2-4 points in the national polls.
That’s not a big lead but a lead but he has momentum and I don’t think Clinton does.
Trump can and likely will win if he continues to be calm, stay the course and in and out in the public as he has without attacking anyone new!
It’s his ballgame right now. If Clinton can get out the Obama voters in mass she has a shot, but I just don’t think they’re very excited about her. Do you?
10K big boy.
You and Donald should start walking like my grandfather does. He’s in
better shape than both of you!
Put title to that car of yours up.
I truly think you are afraid of Harley!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think you know what Harley knows and that’s bad ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
come on glaze.
10K…you got it….I’ll take lean on business…i’ll bring cash.
You don’t put your money where your mouth is!
Why would Harley do this? To shut up the old guys on kcc!
Come one…come all.
If you say something….put money behind it……
I’ll take every bet….I bank at commerce bank. We can set it up there.
Lets git ‘er done!
Unless you’re going to lean on the business and knock it over it’s lien, dummy.
People’s perception of reality never ceases to amaze me. Odin help us. These people actually get to vote.
Jim, idiots of all political colors have been voting for centuries. This isn’t anything new.
That being said, I’m proud to say I’m not voting for either candidate. I’ll cast my vote for Gary Johnson.
“Jim, idiots of all political colors have been voting for centuries. This isn’t anything new.”
Ya, in 2008 people actually thought Obama was going to pay off their montages and put gas in their car. People used to start small riots because they wanted Obama money from his stash.
GWSWOT, I’m no Hillary supporter. Not by any stretch. It really is the lesser of two evils for me. I actually think Trump is so far over his head that he could be dangerous. His ability to control himself is just a couple of steps this side of someone with tourette’s. Johnson may well be my choice as well, but I might have to hold my nose and pull the level “against” Trump.
I refuse to “vote against” anyone. I vote “for” someone, because I believe in them, not because they are the lesser of two evils. That’s just knowingly voting for evil. Anyone who votes for Clinton/Trump and then complains about the two party system is a hypocritical jackass. Jim, that last bit is in no way aimed at you. You’re one of the few on here whose opinion I respect. Sports, politics, whatever…
No worries, Guy. I’ve always voted for the candidate I wanted to win since 1980. I truly believe that a Trump presidency could actually have dangerous consequences, so that changes my typical voting pattern. Lawdy, what a choice!
Glaze, small point. You can pay someone during bankruptcy. It is subject to a possible claw-back(court ordered repayment) but that is very infrequent. I’ve managed companies thru bankruptcy and always paid the vendors and employees.
Didn’t know that. Thank you.
Patrick….he didn’t pay anyone in the bankruptcy. That’s according to the
court documents.
And isn’t it unfair to repay one person and not another.
And sometimes the judge can go back 90 days and get money thrown
back in to be divided among the people owed.
No…dumpster busted out 4 casinos!!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost impossible to do!
but anyway here’s another great tweet
Notice Trump sniffing all the time. Coke user?
— Howard Dean (@GovHowardDean) September 27, 2016
I’m not sure. I’ll let hearne and glaze give their opinion. Dumpster was snifling/delusions of grandeur/unsteady/fidgety…..reminds me of the older people at dirty sallys I saw.
Spot on analysis, CG, almost as if Kerouac wrote it (did in fact, earlier this morn KCC and other websites.) What said boils down to is this: pundits/newsers of any renown variously look at things the way they always have, through the ‘normal’ meter. 2016, an ‘new normal’ is written and is now delivered… Donald Trump – Superstar (think of it in terms swiss fans fawning o’er their local overhypes, only unlike them, the Donald IS the real deal.)
Trump’s the new sheriff come to town, riding to the rescue saddled up a white steed, riding roughshod, taking names and adding notches his six-guns all the while kicking political rear end. The same people who spoke assuredly more than an year ago that Trump would not win the Republican nomination, now plead same ability his become President of the United States of America.
youtube.com/watch?v=l39Wa34d7NE
Out with the old, and in with the new:
a 1 and a 2, and a 1, 2 HIT IT BOYS!
‘So long sad times, go along bad times
We’re rid of you (obummer) at last howdy gay times,
Cloudy gray times are, now a thing of the past
Happy Days Are Here Again!’
‘Ohhhhhh, happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So let’s sing a song of cheer again
America Made Great Again!’
‘Altogether SHOUT IT NOW!
No one can doubt it now, so
let’s tell the world about it now
Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So let’s sing a song of cheer again
America Is Great Again!’
‘Our cares and troubles are gone
there’ll be no more from now on (from now on…)’
‘Happy days are here again
The skies above are clear again
So, Let’s sing a song of cheer again
Happy days are here again!’
‘Happy times, happy nights
Happy days are here again
Trump makes America great again!’
Yeeeee-hawwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!
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Thanks K, we don’t always agree but I enjoy all your comments as you well know. When others don’t agree many just write hateful words, you don’t so that makes you much more credible. I know you are down on the Chiefs and Royals for being such horrid franchises for decades, can’t blame you. I also know you are attacking them with a smile….not hate. I’m afraid the Royals may never see another world series in our lifetimes….that was it.
Next year will be the end for many of the core team players, Eric, David, Cain likely Wade Davis. I just don’t think the team will have the drive to be the excited guys from 14 and 15. It seems to have ended in August. Now it will be about ‘their’ financial futures and families and whats good for them…players like Eric will have to look at that…if he hits over .275, has 90 plus RBI’s and over 20 hr’s again, he’s likely very gone…the big boys will give him that 7-10 year deal at 20 plus per season. We won’t. Way it goes. I don’t see the offense being good enough to win a division let alone a world title anytime soon, unless they find a new star or two…
“I also know you are attacking them with a smile….not hate.”
– bingo… unlike you CG, some folks aren’t bright enough to grasp that. As Kerouac has stated before, visit KCC for information as well entertainment – gleaned and provided.
As a recovering former homer myself, was no bigger Chiefs or A’s fan than yours truly once upon a time, and as such I’ve earned the prerogative to critique & lambast, kudo & anoint. Appreciate and moreso demand accuracy & integrity reportage, blogging or whatever the realm. When perceive a lack thereof, internet pen corrects and codifies, make no distinction or give any quarter due it being ‘our’ teams… facts reign supreme.
Beyond knowledge/intelligence or absence thereof, banter, serious or tongue in cheek, polite or profane, separates bloggers. Will always be those who take offense anything, different perceptions each us, always homers & haters & those do not abide the other.
Kerouac, as a former member the first and nowadays latter, provide counterbalance, so final analysis hopefully wheat (truth) is separated chaff (BS.) Abide not ‘overhype’ re: Chiefs, Royals or whatever teams/players, sport.
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Sporting world lost one of the few ‘legit’ (non media-created), true heroes and legends remained, Arnold Palmer. Among the last of a dying breed, he as Bart Starr (who will shortly join him in but memory) epitomize the glory that was sport, of another day.
Though the two walked on feet made similar clay athletes today, Palmer and Starr will always stand taller than modern day counterparts, because each their lives testament to integrity. No modern day overhype, no cheating (on or off the field) sport or private lives, no scandals. When placed alongside today’s so-called heroes (Tom Brady & Tiger Woods, two examples), embrace disappointment in how much lower the bar has been set by and for today’s ‘heroes’ than was yesteryear, proof in the reputations all them.
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Just 40 more days… TRUMP 2016! (yes yes, he’s no JFK, who in turn no Eisenhower, who in turn one the kids ancient history denigrated according attribution an Socrates and Plato’s era:
“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. The children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”
Sign of times when (even late as spring 1966) the above quotation prompted Malcolm S. Forbes ‘Forbes’ magazine to write an editorial on youth. Alas, efforts of researchers & scholars to confirm the authenticity of the wording, unsuccessful.
Perhaps as some are wont to believe, people are not getting worse, they’re just being more closely scrutinized. Said debatable, just this: do we have to be so d**ned overt and showy about our transgressions? All this jumping out of bushes papparrazzi, this massive degree lyin & dyin, KKK’n & BLM’n, chest thumpin & sky pointin, preenin & tauntin, talkin & squawkin, hangin & bangin, cheatin & bendin the rules and, and… no one will ever convince me life wasn’t better yesteryear than it is today, in sport as in life, arena as street considered, Kerouac’s experienced perspective offers no apology.
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I’m surprised people bother watching the debates. The odds that whoever gets elected will actually do what they say they’ll do is about 0.1%. Wasn’t Obama gonna close Gitmo, pull out of Afghanistan by 2010 (or some absurd date), etc? HW Bush wasn’t going to raise taxes, etc, etc, etc.
What’s the point of watching 2 strangers knowingly lie to you? Aren’t there better ways to spend your time?
I think I lost an IQ point or two attempting to read your ‘article’.
I didn’t know you had any IQ points!
ouch. touché cg.
CAPTION THAT PIC
Newly discovered among 33,000 missing emails and attachments:
#1 Date night the clinton’s: hildabeast and william discuss his too long gaze Melania (‘not’ her orbs) Trump last night’s debate
#2 Good times: hildabeast presents her rebuttal of monaica’s opening oral argument 1995 /1996, may it please the president
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Now about that chunky Miss Universe from 1996…Donald said she got fat, was an eating machine…welp when you go from 116 to 170 in a few weeks after you win Miss Universe that is a problem…it is your job to look nice, YOU ARE MISS UNIVERSE FOR GODS SAKE…he was the owner of the tv show and pagent…sooo I think his comments make it clear he is a racist, a women hater and someone who should not be in such a high office for lords sake, right…OH DONALD…you are such a ‘guy’ be more presidential like Hillary..to her secret service guys “come on lets go there ain’t no money in this joint” at a fund raiser…but she’s a pro he is a no good racist pig, I see.
Boy when will it end? Oh Nov 8th..got it.
Trump supporters heard what they wanted to hear at the debate. They like the off-the-cuff remarks, the constant interruptions, Trump’s strident tone, etc. That doesn’t mean Trump will win the election. It doesn’t even mean he won the debate. He talked to his base and they responded.
Clinton’s support comes from a broader coalition. Each constituency heard something they wanted to hear, but not everything they support. They’re not as energized as Trump supporters. And to be honest, Hillary is more to a policy wonk and less of a campaigner. That doesn’t mean she’ll lose the election or even that she lost the debate.
The debate was the most unusual I’ve ever witnessed in a presidential cycle and, indeed, this election is the most unusual. I don’t think anyone can accurately predict the outcome.
I agree, no one can accurately predict the outcome. But sheesh, Laura, if they didn’t try and speculate endlessly on the ‘what ifs’ and all, what on earth would all those news-talk shows fill their time with?? real news? snzzz.
laura b…..I did…I have predicted the outcome.
And I did it exactly as it happened in 2012.
Obviously you don’t know Harley and his ability to be right ALL THE TIME!
After the election I hope to have you come back on and see how Harley was
right again.
Then maybe you too can experience the MAGIC of Harley.
Just go to law4life1000@yahoo.com.
I give free advice on life/business/politics and just about anything
you might want to know about. I don’t read palms or do tarot cards
but I (as you would have seen had you been on here the last 4 years)
known that Harley is the king!
thanks and good luck laura b.
Hope you stay for the party on Nov. 10th.
Your new friend
Harley
Meaning, “I just want to be prez. I earned it”
Change ‘earned’ to ‘paid for’.