Sometimes you don’t know whether to loathe the people involved in these scams or just feel sorry for them…
President Obama has reached out to Kansas City to name MARC, the Mid-America Regional Council, one of this year’s “Climate Action Champions.”
MARC received the award for proposing the creation of something called “a regional Resilience Working Group.”
In the kind of language that usually accompanies the awarding of a merit badge, the White House tells us that “through leadership, planning, and action, the Mid-America Regional Council promotes regional cooperation and innovative solutions and seeks to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2 percent per year.”
Is that 2 percent per year fewer emissions just floating over the metro? If so, how do we measure it?
Speaking of measuring, how many tax dollars were spent preparing the various applications, reading them, judging them, and handing out the various citations and what not that the winner’s receive? I am just hoping MARC asked for and got a leg lamp. That, at least, would be tangible.
If climate change is really a crisis why do we need contests to promote it?
I am curious, too, who wrote and who approved the hysterical opening sentence of the press release announcing the award. Brace yourselves:
“From deep droughts to fierce wildfires, severe storms to rising seas, communities across the United States are already grappling with the impacts of extreme weather and climate change.”
Does anyone anywhere really believe that this past year was much different from the year before or the year before that or 100 years before that?
Also, can anyone tell me who switched the name of the apocalypse du jour from “global warming” to “climate change,” or why? Might the fact that temperatures have been flat for the past 15 or so years had something to do with this?
If MARC really wanted to make a splash, they would do what actor Marlon Brando did and send Sacheen Littlefeather to refuse the Academy Award. Sacheen has reason to be pissed. If the white man had only stayed in Europe just think how perfect the weather would be in Kansas City today.
Rich Steele is a citizen journalist and head of the NSAAS (Non-Smokers Against Anti-Smoking).
You don’t mind if I get my scientific information from someone who DOESN’T blog under a fake name and is head of the NSAAS, do you? Thanks.
you stupid f***…..heres your comment:
“From deep droughts to fierce wildfires, severe storms to rising seas, communities across the United States are already grappling with the impacts of extreme weather and climate change.”
do you need examplesof all this
already happening or can you read the scientific data…and if you haven’t
noticed the entire western u.s. is under some pretty tough drought conditions.
plus everything else that’s happening.
Won’t get real bad in our lifetime…but idiots like you forgot that as
keepers of the earth and our country…that we’re to leave the world
a better place than we inherited it. Won’t happen for the next generation.
MARC sponsors the Green Commute Challenge over the warmer months. Businesses and organizations compete with likesize organizations. You score points by either biking, walking, carpooling or taking the bus to work. Then you can win prizes and there’s weekly drawings.
I’m not a hardcore environmentalist, but I’ve come to really enjoy riding my bike to work and I participate in the Green Commute Challenge. And if it makes the air cleaner, that’s a bonus.
I really have no problem with MARC.
“Might the fact that temperatures have been flat for the past 15 or so years had something to do with this?”
I realize “science” might not convince you, but that statement is completely untrue based on actual observations: according to NASA & NOAA, “14 of the 15 warmest years on record have occurred since the turn of the century.” Check out the Goddard Institute for Space Studies’ Global Annual Mean Surface Air Temperature Change graph, it shows a steady & continuing rise from the 1920s through today.
Many people don’t realize this clear trend toward a warmer planet is linked to specific events like hurricanes and winter storms that don’t themselves feel “warm,” hence the move toward “climate change.”
“I realize “science” might not convince you”
You mean the science that cooks the books?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html
Or the same Science that told us in the ’70s that we’re going to have a new ice age?
Global warming is a hoax. Deal with it…rube.
Hmmmm, NASA/NOAA/Goddard versus The Telegraph out of the UK, owned by the Barclay Boys. Guess we’ll have to let Sean Hannity break the tie.
Hey, now Stomper, c’mon, man. Jenny McCarthy says NOT to vaccinate your kids, too. So does Rand Paul and Chris Christie. I swear these people who will put celebrity over science are going to drag us back into the 13th century.
Sigh…F’n rube.
Think for yourself once in a while.
Why do people that argue against actual science resort to name calling? The levels of CO2 in the atmosphere caused by human activity that are causing the current climate issues we are grappling with are undisputed and agreed upon by a significant amount of scientists.
Do some critical thinking.
In 2015 people still think global warming is real?
Sigh…rubes.
That’s a very detailed and articulate presentation that’s difficult to argue with.
Is your name supposed to represent a grammatically correct sentence?
After rereading my comment above, that was probably a bit harsh. I should have offered a bit more content to my opinion.
I think the commenter above hit it. The problem is the explosion of co2 emissions in recent years and its’ effect on our atmosphere. I really think the scientific evidence, if one really does their homework in researching, is overwhelming. Not arguing with you about what went on back over 20 years ago and beyond. Agree that the earth has gone through fluctuations over its’ entire history. Not arguing that. It’s all about the recent explosion of co2 emissions.
But the issue obviously goes way deeper. The American economy is addicted to coal and any steps taken by the government to limit co2 emissions would substantially and adversely effect the stock market and business in general. Trying to protect the earth is a threat to the bottom line of business. There is a powerful and vested interest in denying global warming and resisting any attention given to it.
In addition to that, why should America fight the fight alone when countries like China and India do more harm than we do. What are they doing to clean up their act? The Kyoto Protocol tried to make an effort and it’s at least a step forward.
I understand the deniers motivations. Just don’t agree.
Did you measure the co2 emissions? Or are you using the data from the scientists who are receiving millions of dollars for these for studies? IMHO I think this science will be changed again in another 20 years when it turns out not to be true, just like the cholesterol study that came out this week, which states that cholesterol has nothing to do with heart disease.
Everything, including hahahaharleys mom’s livelyhood, revolves around the money!
Millions of dollars? My father-in-law is a research meteorologist with NOAA, and he & his colleagues work out of a crazy passion for the knowledge, not money — unlike the polar ice caps, salaries & hiring have been frozen most of the last decade — nor to win arguments — sadly allowing deniers to inject doubt where there is none.
The millions of dollars I was referring to was the funding for these studies, not a paycheck. Gary Lezak is a passionate meteorologist also ,but that doesn’t mean his LRC is right.
There was a record high for sea ice in Antartica this last year, but I’m sure there is a reason that this fact doesn’t matter.
Regarding Antarctica sea ice in the comment below:
“Antarctic sea ice hasn’t seen these big reductions we’ve seen in the Arctic. This is not a surprise to us,” said director of the National Snow & Ice Data Center Mark Serreze. “Some of the skeptics say ‘Well, everything is OK because the big changes in the Arctic are essentially balanced by what’s happening in the Antarctic.’ This is simply not true.” Projections made from climate models all predict that global warming should impact Arctic sea ice first and most intensely, Serreze said. “We have known for many years that as the Earth started to warm up, the effects would be seen first in the Arctic and not the Antarctic. The physical geography of the two hemispheres is very different. Largely as a result of that, they behave very differently.”
Spin it any way you want. And I will too.
rww is right, the idea that Global Warming is a concept based on “Settled Science” is preposterous. There is just as much info disputing the concept as there is supporting it. We can all google the info until the sun goes Nova, which, in my opinion, will happen before either side can make definitive claims.
“Yale anti-fossil fuel campaigners have indefinitely postponed a protest that was set for this weekend due to “unfavorable weather conditions and other logistical issues.”
Fossil Free Yale, a group pushing the university to divest itself from fossil fuels, told the Yale Daily News that frigid, snowy weather set for this weekend will mean their global warming protest will have to be postponed.
FFY’s Mitch Barrow said that “unfavorable weather conditions and other logistical issues, including some cancellations from speakers and performance groups” would mean they would not be able to rally on Global Divestment Day — a day where environmental groups urge institutions like Yale to divest from fossil fuels, like coal, natural gas and oil.”
In some places in Boston, as I type, there is 40, count ’em, 40 feet of snow.
The idea that snow disproves climate change is laughable, when quite the opposite is true. The below comes from a scientist at NCAR:
“The environment has warmed especially compared to 1978 (when the last set of major snow storms occurred), boosting the odds of huge amounts of snow. Part of the warming is from human activities increasing heat trapping gases (carbon dioxide) which have warmed the global oceans. Part is from climate variability (such as from the quiet hurricane season last summer — when all the activity was shifted to the warm Pacific), and the result is sea surface temperatures off the coast exceeding 7°F above normal in parts and 4°F over huge expanses, thereby resulting in 15 to 20% more moisture in the atmosphere.
That moisture gets caught up in the storms, likely invigorating the storms themselves, and the result is major snow storms.”
Sigh…Stephen Pack=Rube.
The belief in global warming has become an opiate of the people. As their beloved Marx said, “… the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions.” No one has thrown off their chains yet. They are busy framing their citations from the highly sophisticated and subtle Obama White House. They no doubt pass it around and take turns hanging it in their dens.
The entire awards scheme, including the press release, sounds like it was devised by a group of high school sophomores. “We are the champions, my friends …”
+1
It’s the condescension and sanctimony of self appointed Liberal wallahs, who, by choosing the appearance of superiority based on subjective assignation to the moral high ground, by way of subjective opinion, seek to bend you to their will, who are then outraged by any contradiction to the Global Warming precis (Unless you, YOU are a scientist involved in the discipline, you are not qualified to present anything other than a summation of what you have read and what you believe, unless, of course, you are Harley/JoJo and have done the “research”.) and your opinion.
Please DON’T listen to me. Listen to the National Academy of Science. Seek out what they say. And if you don’t believe the US National Academy, you’re in luck, the National Academies of Britain, Canada, China, Russia, Brazil, and many others have signed a joint statement that climate change is real, it is caused by humans, and we need to act now.
I am sitting in the dark, hoping to mirror my heretofore ignorant ideas, that now, will change, with your metaphorical light, which will show me the way onto Al Gore’s Jet, where, with Sheryl Crow, we promise, to only use, one square of toilet paper to preserve the environment.
The problem is that the explosion of carbon dioxide has not resulted in a significant increase in temperature, and the monicker Climate Change came out of the failure of the Global Warming models. In fact, NASA reported that it was 38% confidant that the last decade was the warmest on record. When we get a day in May, where the high temperature is 4 degrees in Kansas City, and the year before we had snow in May, It raises the question of whether Global Cooling would actually be admitted to. Any history over 200 years has to be left to geologists, as there were no thermometers and no weather balloons to measure global warming or cooling, and the scientific existence of limestone is pretty good evidence that the world, without humans, was considerably warmer several million years ago. Just as ice melting in a glass of water does not make the glass overflow as it melts, the melting of the polar ice cap does not portray a massive flood. Antarctica would be a different story, but it bears a laugh when climate scientist get trapped in the ice just getting there. MARC has done some good things, and I see no harm in creating more efficient products and methods to our lives. I may not agree with everything they do, kind of like the KCP&L promise to use green energy, as their new bio-fuel cars an trucks all promise a 15% savings, paid for by us. Climate change is anything but settled science, but MARC winning an award is alright with me, provided it is not paid for out of my pocket.
In one point he made, Chuck is absolutely correct. None of us are actually scientists ( I don’t believe) so all we are doing is repeating research ( we have hopefully done in earnest, wide and detailed) and referring to it to support our personal opinion.
With that in mind, I’d like to offer that merely saying that it’s cold outside, in places where it often is not, is proof positive that climate change/global warming is a myth, is not accurate. The experts I choose to believe will offer that the release of polar vortexes, which previously remained nearer the poles but are now pushing towards the equator, dropping ” 40 feet of snow” in Boston or producing temperatures of 4 in Kansas City in May, is a logical outcome that is scientifically supported by “their” research. Again, Chuck, I acknowledge that I am merely repeating from my rhetorical “liberal wallah”.
It’s unfortunate, and usually not productive in promoting civil discourse, to say that global warming/climate change is the result of Marxism and the subtle and sinister Obama White House but CFP Cowboy capsulized it perfectly when he wrote; “provided it is not paid for out of my pocket”. Politics rears its’ ugly head.
This is an important issue and the fact that we are trying to discuss it is a good thing. Hopefully it does just reduce itself to name calling.
“Again, Chuck, I acknowledge that I am merely repeating from my rhetorical “liberal wallah”.
Acknowledging the problem, is the first step towards recovery.
🙂
Chuck, I was there, with Morgan Fairchild and Earnest Shackleton on that trip into Antartica. By the time we left, the snow had melted and the Polar Bears were all dead. We only got out by the grace of God and my friends from Seal Team 6 who still send me presents.
My lame attempt at Humor was supposed to be a quote from Brian Williams, but my dog jumped into my lap and screwed it up.
🙂
He’s cold.
🙂
I am not sure why the temperature of the earth is a political issue, it is either happening or it is not, just because someone has an opinion about it doesn’t mean it is not happening..
HERE’S A GUARANTEE…
chuck/Richard “no brains” steele/rww/and the rest of the deniers go to
the doctor who graduated from school 20 years ago. Dr. tells them
they have cancer and its spreading….
WHAT DO THESE STUPID F*CK NON BELIEVERS AND IDIOTS DO?
they run right to the scientiss and start the chemo and radiation to try and
save their lives. There’s a few drs./scientists who say the treatments don’t
cure the canceer. Do they believe them? of course not…they’re not
going against science.
NOW SHOW US AGAIN CHUCKAND STEELEY AND THE REST OF
YOU NON BELIEVERS DON’T TAKE THE ADVICE OF SCIENTISTS /
THOUSANDS HAVE SAID WE’RE KILLING OFF OUR PLANET…TWO OR
THREE SAY ITS NOT TRUE AND THEY GET PAID FOR SAYING IT.
Come on you fools….we know you’re nothing but loud mouths
with very little real science behind the b.s. you speak every day.
get real…you’re nothing but jive a$$ b.s. ers!
🙂
I am a “scientiss” tologist too and Adele Dazim is as wickedly talented as you are Harley. Pick up that paper cup and talk to us all, the world is your oyster, if the Rockefellers don’t kill them all first!!
It’s Pinctada Black Oyster Month!! Shells up!! DON”T RESEARCH!!!
hahahaharley, i have some beach front property for sale in Iceland. It’s a little chilly now, but in 10 years they say it will be the next South Beach! Are you interested?
http://nypost.com/2015/02/14/city-braces-for-coldest-day-in-two-decades/
WOW!!!
Interesting front page article in the Star this morning that addresses this science vs. values dichotomy.
For what it is worth, there is also another editorial by Steve Rose on education budget issues in Kansas.
More fertile ground for Rich Steele to “inspire” us.
Today’s Star Facts vs Values article did a great job pointing out the anti-science shared by left-tending GMO food / vaccine avoiders and right-tending climate change deniers.
After living in KC for 7 years, I’m now in Boulder County, Colorado, where there’s far more of the first cohort than the second. Both are troubling.