More than anything else I heard during last night’s debate, the thing that stood out was that 47 million people were on food stamps…
Mitt Romney brought this scary fact up early on in the debate. And President Obama didn’t say anything else about it, so I take it to be true. I think this speaks volumes as to where America is today; with 17% or more of America broke and needing food stamps.
I thought about that all through last night’s debate where the audience posed questions to both presidential candidates.
Yes, President Obama clearly won the debate.
He had two big bullets, “Your retirement savings is much larger than mine,” he told Romney over question of Romney having investments in China. That’s when Mitt said the president also had some of his retirement dollars invested in China.
The other big one was about Lybia.
“I did call them terrorists the next day in the Rose Garden,” Obama said after Mitt said he hadn’t. Obama’s statement was then confirmed by the moderator that in fact the President hadn’t called that attack one of “terror” the next day in the Rose Garden at the White House.
In the end all of this debate posing and posturing changes little.
Both men mean well, I’m sure. It was called the best debate ever afterwords by some. The President stopped the bleeding. Mitt said he hadn’t done a good enough job.
I’m just not sure that these debates will change the outcome of the voting.
I felt George W Bush had a horrible record in his first term, didn’t debate well, looked puzzled half the time but still beat John Kerry. So maybe people already have their minds made up, barring an incredible turn of events during the debates or in the world.
This election may have already been over before the debates began.
I know several people on food stamps today, but hearing that number 47 million told me that we still have a long, long way to go. That the economy is poor and we need more help.
The question being, is it up to the president to fix everything or just Father Time?
please…please…please….please….glaze…stick to your subjects you’re best at:
poontang/young hotties/maybe a few prop bets on football/unmade movies/
nightlife in the inner city and comedy clubs.
anything outside of that leave to the experts.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Really, well I’d say my comments were on target as usual…thanks and hopefully this isn’t the real Harley…P.S. every movie I’ve tried to make I have, six to be exact, and one to go…
Craig, its the mass ignorance as exemplified in the comment you responded to that keeps serious debate and discussions from taking place on this site.
You may be part right or wrong, totally right or wrong, but you are welcome to that view. It’s the lack of tollerance on any statement and the residual personal attacks that get launched from the above forementioned that takes any interesting discussion elsewhere. Few thinking people are willing to have thirty seconds of their life used up wading through mindless rambling and its associated sure to follow drivel like you were yet again the recipient of.
Third grade grammar skills and an equally immature cognitive thought process he seems to delight in makes KCC easily avoidable.
Apparently I, unlike him, are ok digesting multiple opinions and points of view.
I apologize on behalf of your ingrate friend.
I agree with you 100%. Harley should be nice to Glaze, above all people. Glaze actually has defended him on here many times. Harley can’t resist the urge to belittle others. He exploits any chance he gets to build himself up at their expense. When someone doesn’t like it, they are angry and bitter in his mind. He thinks everyone should just bend over and take it and not defend themselves. He acts like a bully. I never have liked bullies and never will.
thanks lumpy.
i love glaze..he’s my favorite author on kcc..
i have backed him up mamy many times.
He’s like me…a risk taker…an outlier…he’s
edgy and out there with his opinions.
we will disagree…but not with hatred…but with
some fun qoutes…nothing to get himupset about..
but as you all know…many..many of the qoutes
on here under harley are not from the original
harley.
maybe half the qoutes on here are from the real
harely…and many of you got confused with what the
reall harley wrote and what the imposters like
wilson wrote on here under my name.
I know there are others who write stuff under my
title…which i can’t stop but which get interpreted
as the real harley.
I am opinionated and out there…but i back my
statements with facts and stats.
Please forgive those fools on here who post crap under
the harley name withoutmy consent.
I know many of my folowers/readers/fans and disciples
have become upset and sent me emails about the
attempt by others on this site to put the wrong words
on here.
Many times glaze has responded to the fake harley
comments and i pointed out that they were false.
Please accept my apoligies for any misconception that
has been caused…i am the realharley…and i
know when someone has used my title to post absolute
b.s.
I disagree with glaze on this article…i had some fun
with it…and i will give details later since i am
extremely busy on a new business project.
I ask for my fans patience as i am extremely
busy wroking on a huge new project anc i do
aplogize for any problems caused by the confusion
raised by those who unfairly use the harley name.
Thanks for your patience and your support.
the real harley.
My advice is to follow your own advice; “If you dont have PROOF or back up, its BS!”
Your words, not mine. I have NEVER posted a single thing under your name. Not once.
Until you can prove it, and you can’t because its never happened, its BS and you are, once again, what they call, WRONG.
I dont want to hear anything else out of you about it. Thats all there is to it. You are wrong. Prove otherwise or STFU!
What makes you more of an expert than Glaze? He, along with everyone else is entitled to his opinion. I often don’t agree with him either but don’t think he has no right to say anything unless I agree with it.
mikey the mental midget…your opinion is pretty much
worthless. You have no correct facts on anything and
your negativity is over the top.
ANYONE WHO’S ON THE INTERNET TROLLING THE
KCC ON FRIDAY NIGHTS AT MIDNITE LOOKING TO
FIND SOME EXCITEMENT (i’M TALKING ABOUT YOU!!!!)
needs to GET A LIFE. OR A WOMAN! OR BOTH!!!!!
i’M SURE that glaze or hearne can help you out with that.
Or you can hangk with glaze’s dog junior…i’m sure the
dog is more entertaining than trolling the internet on
friday nights.
We will still be screwed.
You are very singular in your reasoning. Voltaire says that Faith is the ability to believe where no evidence of a reason to believe exists. You claim to be an agnostic. In a strange bit of irony, the literal meaning of agnostic is , I do not know. That well describes you.
What is your criteria for determining that the President won? If the goal of the debate(s) is to obtain votes of the undecided then Mr. Romney is the clear winner. With disparate outlets such as Fox News and MSNBC reporting that an overwhelming majority of undecided voters have moved into the Romney camp after debates thus far
The crown you award President Obama is a FUGAZI.
Well Reggin it’s just another factoid fact by Glazer, what more needs to be said.
“People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe.”___Andy Rooney
Ain’t that the truth!
+1
That is especially true on politics.
fyi
“I did call them terrorists the next day in the Rose Garden,” Obama said after Mitt said he hadn’t. Obama’s statement was then confirmed by the moderator that in fact the President hadn’t called that attack one of “terror” the next day in the Rose Garden at the White House. ” GLAZES STORY……………..his comment…his words…
this comment is 100% incorrect….the word hadn’t is incorrect….candy said the
the “moderator” statement by glaze should have said “the president had called taht
attack one of terror:”
glazes statement as in the story is incorrect. Its a huge factural error.
Its the basis of the whole mitt “gotcha” part of the debatethat blew up in his
face….did hearne make this mistake or did glaze.
president had called that attack one of terror.
there are 100 videos that pROVE THIS QOUTE BY GLAZE 100% INCORRECT…
where was voice of reason to see this. Was he blinded by the light? Or was he
so into attack mode thathe missed what is now one of the most famous
parts of presidential debates in history….maybe voice of reason has a reason
for missing this huge huge point..I wait for your responssoses voice of reason
and mikey>>>>>>>>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a very importaant points…
hadn’t should have been had…
did anyone catch this? no because everyone is trying to beat up
on harley when harley saw this huge mistake in glazes writing.
Its 100% incorrect…sorry….but that why glaze should have
not made that comments which was very very very wrong…
sorry to make anyone mad…but its important.
He didn’t say that it was an act of terror. He said “we wouldn’t tolerate acts of terror” which is not directly saying what happened at the embassy was such. He then, along with his minions spent the next two weeks saying it was a spontaneous demonstration due to the video that insulted Islam. The guy that made the video was locked up and is still locked up. Obama and Hillary kept apoligizing for the video. Meanwhile, within 24 hours, the people in Libya even said it was not about the video. That was even self evident to anyone with one ounce of common sense. People showing up on Sept. 11 with rocket propelled grenades is hardly spontaneous, but premeditated. They knowingly lied for two weeks straight.
you’ve been proven wrong again..and again…and again…
i guess if you lie enough the people on here will believe
you…
they checked the information…you’re wrong…agina!
Even CNN has admitted since then that Candy Crowley was incorrect. It is funny that nobody at the time inferred from what Obama said after the attack that he was confirming it was the act of terrorists.
mikey the mental midget…again you are wrong. I have to
keep correcting yu on your two weeks comments..
you are an idiot for continuing to say this comment.
If you go to the tgape of obamas appearance on david letterman
on sept 18th he says the attacks were by terrorists.
Would you please get those facts straight…all the memos
and the rose garden speech and the speech and releases
the day after from the government prove you continue to
lie.
Please mikey…you’re already made a fool on here…please
stop….
if you need further proof go to the site hulu and you can
probably watch the tape from the show.
I know you’re old and cranky…but they’ve got something
that proves your point wrong again and again…it’s
called video tape!!!!! heard of it?????
So Obama said “we wouldn’t tolerate acts of terror” hmmm…ok so he felt that covered it…my point is IS THIS THE AN ISSUE, REALLY….? hmmm…is their “investments” an issue? hmmm….calm down people….both of these were the big ZINERS the president was said to have kinda won with…maybe….again my points have been the real issues are not addressed by either candidate CAUSE THEY CAN’T FIX THEM…YOUR CD VALUE, PAYING 29% INTEREST ON CREDIT CARDS, NO SAFE HAVEN FOR SAVINGS…HUGE INCREASE IN HEALTH INSURANCE….YOUR HOME IS WORTH LESS TODAY THAN A FEW YEARS AGO…NOBODY WILL LOAN MONEY TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT ALREADY WEALTHY…these are the issues, just to start with, then comes education is poor, crime is still way too high, law enforcement more a business than ever…I could list more…YOUR INCOME TAX IS NOT A MAJOR ISSUE, CAUSE ITS NOT GOING UP OR DOWN MUCH ANYWAYS…ITS BS…SMALL BIZ IS KILLED BY STATE TAXES AND OTHER ISSUES NOT ADDRESSED, MOST PAY VERY LITTLE IN FED TAX..’THEY MAKE NO PROFIT’ TO SPEAK OF…again these are the issues not what was said or not in the Rose Garden..so now who is the fool…not me…I get it..do you
you don’t get it.
you had at least 3 wrong points in your story…that was a big
one…because it goes tothecore of theproblems..
and this qoute is wrong too…
yet today reported hosuing up 15% in september….biggest increase
since june of 2008…before crash…
taxes…you pay less taxes on federal than you did in 1950…state
taxes are up thanks to repubs and brownback…they raised sales
taxes 15% in kansas….15%!!!!!!!!!!!!
so again…please get some facts to back up your claims…be sure what
you write is true (you were wrong on that qoute)….you need to do
some background research before you write this stuff and
refine your statements…
noone makes profits??????the big corprotions arte making their biggest
profits ever……..in history!!!!!!!!!!!!!! do some reaserach as to why??????????????/
if you putyourself out as a knowledgab3le writer…than back up what
you say…not with b.s….but facts and figures…if not…then expect
to be hammered on what you write.
sorry…you’re to be the expert…not me…
MAEK ITT STOPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Such a subjective question be “who won the debate?” I see no consenus that either man ‘won’, a cursory look at online reportage claiming ‘Romney won’ here, ‘Obama’ there, or that it was a wash. Even were there a consensus, said validates nothing.
It’s a popularity contest – no different than when Pioli arrived in KC some four years ago. ‘Everyone’ (my poetic license) called him the ‘best GM candidate in the NFL.’ So much for that ‘vote’. It’s your vote CG, nothing more.
Here’s mine.
Obama (as Pioli) has been in office 4 years now. Obama is ‘Pioli-like’ in his failure to accept responsibility for what has transpired under his tenure. Whereas Pioli paints the former regime Peterson & Edwards as the cause of the ’empty cupboard’ talent-wise in KC when he arrived, Obama tries using Bush to cover Obama’s own failures. That 4 years later Pioli’s ‘best’ is in fact Herm & Carl’s leftover players and similarly the ‘best’ Obama can do is blame Bush is ‘pathetic’ in the parlance. Worse, he fails to abide by his own promise that he would leave after 4 years if things weren’t better.
They’re not.
Time’s up.
If the question is “which Chief ‘GM’ will lose his title first, Barrack or Scott?” My opine,
Romney will prevail in November. If he doesn’t, and it’s 4 more years of Obama/Pioli, the country as KC will continue to lose.
difference between obama and pioli…
pioli did not inherit a bad team…pioli didn’t have to get a vicoious hateful
congress to agree to get the economy going…..pioli could make decisions to be
instittuted immediately…
and pioli has his plan still on the down swing..after 4 years his plan didn’t work…
if you need info on the economy starting to boom…i can give that to you..
including unemplyment dropping to 7.3% in mid october!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
need anything more buddy…..housing starts coming back up 15% in septbmer…
but remember..pioli ddint have anyone in the company trying to kill him and
his programs…obama did…
obama had the republicans who even befoe he took office they wanted him to
fail….
not quitkk the same mrkerouac…bad analogy…bad comparison…sorry…nice
try..
the dynamics between pioli and obama are so differnet your compairson is
very weak. thanks.
Obama had majorities in both the House and Senate his first two years. He lost the majority in the House due to the backlash caused by his poor job performance. All he has are excuses for failure instead of a record of sucess.
As far as unemployment goes, the U6 is still at 14.7%. That number includes people whose unemployment claims have run out and part timers who wish to be full time. These part timers could work as little as 1 hour per week.
We wouldn’t have 47 million people on food stamps if the U6 figure wasn’t so dismal. By the way, only 32 million were on food stamps when Obama took office.
“difference between obama and pioli…pioli did not inherit a bad team”
– the ‘logic’ that a 2-14 W/L in 2008 is anything but bad eludes, but likely I’m not as educated as yourself. Lemme guess: your next claim will be (aft Romney wins in November) he too won’t ‘inherit a bad team’ as it were (because Obama ‘fixed’ things for him.)
“pioli didn’t have to get a vicoious hateful congress to agree to get the economy going…..pioli could make decisions to be instittuted immediately…and pioli has his plan still on the down swing..after 4 years his plan didn’t work…if you need info on the economy starting to boom…i can give that to you.. including unemplyment dropping to 7.3% in mid october!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! need anything more buddy…..housing starts coming back up 15% in septbmer…but remember..pioli ddint have anyone in the company trying to kill him and his programs…obama did…obama had the republicans who even befoe he took office they wanted him to fail…. not quitkk the same rkerouac…bad analogy…bad comparison…sorry…nice try.. the dynamics between pioli and obama are so differnet your compairson is very weak. thanks.”
– well that was painful to read – not the delusive content, rather, your composition (bleeding eyes mine, like the heart every true liberal.)
If we give your proffer benefit of the doubt (as in despite ‘all that’), Romney continues to trend ‘up’, Obama ‘down’… probably just another of those ‘vast right-wing conspiracies’.
It was duty to commiserate with you, if not a pleasure…
another loser….another fake authority.
Another bunch of b.s…because again the guy can’t provide
any common sense and statisticial information to
refute whati said.
Theres a huge difference between pioli’s situation and
obamas.
I pointed outj that pioli had total control over his
situation..obama did not.
Pioli can make decisions on budgets…spending..expenses
…personel and they are into effect immediately.
Obama can not.
The hate and vile lanuguage used by obamas opponents
has been far worse than anything ever seen by myslef
having worked in politics since 1992.
Again..another phony…you disagree with me…provide some
facts and we can debate them.
notice in my post…not a single personal attack toward
kerouac…just a statement that his analogy is wrong.
What does he return…a bunch of b.s. trying to attack
me personally.
when you have no facts…you are kerouac.
when you have no statments to refute what i say..attack
the person for his spelling/grammar.
anytime you want to compare whati’ve done with what
you’ve done in life kerouac…lets do it.
you know where to contact me…
next time keep it tothe facts.
You can’t and thats why you are so shallow.
All of you liberals that are so mad about how Obama is treated were REALLY nice to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, weren’t you? Give me a break with the phony moral indignation!
Sheppard Smith, Fox News.
“If you check President Obama’s last trip over-seas, his wife left just after their visit to France . She has yet to accompany him to any Arab country. Think about it. Why is Michelle returning to the states when ‘official’ trips to foreign countries generally include the First Lady.”
Here’s one thought on the matter.
While in a Blockbuster renting videos I came across a video called “Obama”. There were two men standing next to me and we talked about President Obama. These guys were Arabs, so I asked them why they thought Michelle Obama headed home following the President’s recent visit to France instead of traveling on to Saudi Arabia and Turkey with her husband. They told me she could not go to Saudi Arabia , Turkey or Iraq .
I said “Why not,(?) Laura Bush went to Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Dubai .” They said that Obama is a Muslim and therefore he is not allowed to bring his wife into countries that adhere to Sharia Law.
Two points of interest here:
1) I thought it interesting that two American Arabs at Blockbuster believe that our President is a Muslim, who follows a strict Islamic creed.
2) They also said that’s the reason he bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia . It was a signal to the Muslim world, acknowledging his religion.
For further consideration, here is a response from Dr. Jim Murk, a Middle Eastern Scholar and expert on Islam.
This is his explanation of what the Arab American’s were saying.
“An orthodox Muslim man would never take his wife on a politically oriented trip to any nation which practices Sharia law, particularly Saudi Arabia where the Wahhabi sect is dominant. This is true and it is why Obama left Michelle in Europe . She will stay home when he visits Arab countries. He knows Muslim protocol; this includes, bowing to the Saudi King. Obama is regarded as a Muslim in the Arab world, because he was born to a Muslim father; he acknowledged his Muslim faith with George Stephanopoulus. Note that he downplays his involvement with Christianity (after touting it in the election campaign , by not publicly joining a Christian church in DC. And occasionally attending the chapel for services at Camp David.
He also played down the fact that America is a Christian country and said, unbelievably, that it was one of the largest Muslim nations in the world, which is nonsense. He has publicly taken the side of the Palestinians in the conflict with Israel and he ignored the National Day of Prayer, something no other President has ever done. He conceals his true faith to the detriment of the American people.”
— Jim Murk, Doctor of Philosophy in Middle Eastern Culture & Religion.
ACTIONS speak louder than words.
Another interesting item regarding Sharia Law. Why has Barack Hussein Obama insisted that the U.S. Attorney General hold the trials of the 911 Muslim Terrorists in Civilian Courts as Common Criminals instead of as Terrorists who attacked the United States of America ? If the Muslim Terrorists are tried in Military Tribunals, convicted and sentenced to death, by LAW, Barack Hussein Obama, as President of the United States , would be required to sign their death warrants. He would not be required to sign the death warrants if they are sentenced to death by a Civilian Court . Muslim Jihadist, Army Major Hassan slaughtered non-Muslim soldiersat Ft. Hood, Texas rather than go to Afghanistan and be a part of anything that could lead to the deaths of fellow Muslims. He stated that Muslims ‘could not and should not kill fellow Muslims.’ Is the motive for Barack Hussein Obama’s insistence on civilian trials, to make sure he doesn’t have to sign the death warrants for the Muslim Terrorists? Why would he, as President of the United States , not sign the death warrants for Muslim Terrorists who attacked the United States and murdered over 3,000 U. S. Citizens on 9/11? Could it be that he is FORBIDDEN by his RELIGION to authorize the execution of Muslims?
Open your eyes, ears and mind to who the President is, how he behaves and what he is doing!
Actions speak louder than teleprompter-written words.
Interesting points but what about the killing of Osama Bin Laden?
Mr. Mike, that is an excellent question. There is a brilliant article in the current edition of Vanity Fair about the detailed planning and authorization of the bin Laden killing. I suggest you read it to draw your own conclusion. In my opinion, first of all this was a strategic political win that President Obama desperately needed. It was always President Obama’s desire to capture bin Laden alive and bring him to justice in the United States, much like what AG Holder wanted to do with KSM. Showing our “civility” to the muslim world was supposed to curry favor and show us to be less imperialistic than perceived on the Arab street.
While that was his goal that was not something that he could “order” given the inability to control situational demands that might arise during the operation.
It is clear in the article that Navy Seal Team Six was more about shoot first ask questions later, particularly when one of the Blackhawk choppers deployed on the mission crashed during the entry phase.
As much of a threat as bin Laden was to the US. He was an even bigger threat to the Saudi Royal Family and the stability of that nation and their petrochemical wealth. The killing of bin Laden was a bigger relief to the Saudi’s than it was to the US. It could be inferred that by turning up the heat on US intelligence assets who had always been looking for bin Laden after he escaped drom Tora Bora that President Obama was doing the bidding of the Saudi Royal Family more than the citizens of the United States.
Have you seen the movie: “2016”?
come on idiot….you expect us to believe that a guy who spells his
name n*gger c*nt backwards would speak at a blockbuster to 2 arabs
waiting in line and you know they were muslim.
Get real whoever youare…because you’re just like ryan…a liar!!!!!!
please…dont insult our intelligence.
You’re another hater on here…please go back tothe rock you came out
from under!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Mr. Harley. If you would pay attention to details you would see the story is a transcript of a story related by Sheppard Smith of Fox News Channel. It was his experience, not mine. Similar observations about Mrs. Obama’s lack of travel to the Middle East with her husband abound on the Internet from credible international publications. Perhaps if you were not so full of fear, hatred and shame as a result of your lack of knowledge and intellect you would not be so myopic in your thinking. The ability to honestly consider and deconstruct opposing views on a single subject in ones mind is the true measurement of intelligence.
Many prayers for you Mr. Harley. You are a man with much anger and little knowledge, perhaps even a sociopath.
You summed it up well, Reggin!
The next debate on foreign policy should really be interesting with all of these conflicting stories from Obama, Biden, and the people who were questioned under oath. The fast and furious thing should come up as well. The only thing Obama has to counter with is to say that Romney has investments in China in his blind trust.
One thing about the debate that the President said about Libya. He said when he heard that the embassy was overrun, he told them to send reinforcements. If it has been overrun, it is to late. Any military person will tell you that. The reinforcements should have been sent earlier. Not after it has been overrun. Period.
He is just changing his story as he goes along to whatever is convenient at the time he is telling it. If that was pointed out to him what you just said, he would deny saying it and come up with another version!
I am surprised nobody has a comment on 47 million Americans on food stamps…that one really got me…
I did comment on it and related it to the 14.7% U6 number. I think they go hand in hand.
I am suspicious. I think all these “Harleys” are the same person. I don’t think Craig has the intellect to pull off the con himself…. Hearne, maybe? Stan Glaz? All three? Other people?
It’s likely if any of these gentlemen I named comment, they will derisively deny any such con; if they are BSing us and were to admit it, the number of readers would dwindle and so would advertising rev. Of course if Harley exists, he could come out and prove it…
They’ll likely try to turn the tables by stating that I am the faker. But I’m not the one running a business here ….. 🙂
If Hearne deletes this post it will speak volume.
it ain’t me
it ain’t me
it ain’t me
it ain’t me
it ain’t me
you stupid dumb f*ck!
Whatever you say, StanChuck.
who is this guy? Is he one of glazer’s comedians on cocaine?
All Willard will have to do is wave his magic tax cut wand over the “Job Creators” and balance will be restored to the universe.