OTC: Can 810’s Chiefs’ Coverage Be Trusted With New Radio Contract?
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Arte
Greg–you often refer to the Chiefs as a once-proud franchise. Maybe proud, but why? They haven’t been to a Super Bowl in 40 years. Since then, 17 teams have been to multiple Super Bowls. The Saints and Bucs even have won Super Bowls. Except for a nice run in the 60s which you could argue the Chiefs underachieved, it’s been pretty empty. Okay, I know you’ll argue the 90s were good and they were. But mainly because people in this town were so starved for a winner, what those teams accomplished seems magnified to what really was accomplished. Because in the end, still nothing. Instead of once proud, this franchise–in the last 40 years, along with Detroit has simply been one of the worst in the NFL period.
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GH: Arte, I actually paused when I wrote that tired line and thought to myself it might be time to retire that “once proud” label from the now “always awful” Chiefs. Good call.
Orphan of the Road
810 has been sucking up to the Chiefs since I moved back in 2003. Soren Petro is always on their side. KK, well which was is the wind blowing today (never blows a harsh wind with a “guest”).
With Pioli running the ship I don’t think there will be much info coming out which isn’t company approved.
Removing back hair? WTF, chemo is going to do it for me…
craig glazer
Holly molly, this Arte guy sounds like me. Hats off to you Arte you and only you have in two paragraphs summed up the Chiefs. My words exactly and I loved your genius comments about underachieving Chiefs of the late 60’s early 70’s. They were that. Oakland and KC ruled the AFL for l2 years and between them won two super bowls. Not good. KC had at least two more in them as did Oakland…guess they beat up on each other, but on paper, the Chiefs were crazy talented, more than Raiders were….and the 90’s Chiefs had really only one team that was Super Bowl caliber, the Bono team of 95 for sure and yes even the 97 team minus Elvis, Gannon sure winner of the AFC title game and Super Bowl, Carl and Marty blew it…again….great story comment Arte.
Blah
I’m sure 610’s coverage of the Royals is controlled also. I guess 810 is the unofficial and unbiased voice for Royals info. The sooner 610 is off the air the better.
chuck
Fun read.
810 is overcommercialized—jeeze, yesterday they droned on for so long about the Sporting goods store…
Gotta pay the bills, and if revenue keeps coming in…well, still.
Me personally, I think Soren is the best. He always seems to have insights and angles on stories that, if you are interested in sports (Gamble a little.), give you another way of approaching a question.
He does that consistantly with respect to players, money, teams, management et al related to possible outcomes.
I don’t hear that many player interviews from him, and once again, it is just my stupid opinion, but player interviews tell you jack.
Interpreting the interpretation, of the players interpretation of the team company line with stock in trade resposes….wow…brutal.
I would actually much rather hear what a columnist or talking head has to say, after he has interpreted actula games, trades or team moves. This is with respect to this article, which I liked.
Jack Harry is apoplectic before his morning coffee and first line of blow, but I still like hearing his rants and raves.
Nick Wright is pretty smarmy, but young, quick and bright. At that age, who wouln’t get caught up in ego and the need to rub shoulders in search newly aquired gravitas?
Cool article.
SM
your obsession is just sad, Greg. It says way more about you than about the guys you criticize.
You’ve totally wasted several opportunities to be a voice of sports media in this town. Instead, you choose to waste your forum by using inaccurate and out of context quotes to criticize people actually employed in the business. At this point your credibility is slightly below Jack Harry. And that’s not a compliment to either of you.
It’s a damn shame, and you should be embarrassed.
jojo
1. good for pod. His wife was hot. And he
gets to go to the big market.. good for him..
and whaqt did the royals get for him?
2. another losing trade. a hustler..a
fast guy and what do they royals get…prospects…more prospects for what year
..2020…2018….midget moore is one fucking
idiot.
3. great column today hall…its going to
be a hot august and hopefully the cheifs
should improve. If they don’t who cares what
the stations say. It will be the same old
crap regurgitated from last year. If they
stink up the place you can take all the
qoutes from last years comments…add in
charlie and romeo…and just put them in the
comments section and noone will know the
difference.
Truth is that kk or wright or whoever really
don’t know much more about sports than most
of the people on this site. The people here are
not restricted by time or space and their comments are more accurate and concise than
anything the clowns at 810 or 610 or thefox
say. Now its magnified. If the chiefs stink
its gonna come from every angle this year.
And where are the receivers we were looking for
in the off season…does charlie think he can
win with these ball dropping clowns?
The Independent Rage
Some people just come across on the radio as folks you would likely never want to know in real life. KK is one of those persons. Unless he was some radically different individual in high school, I think you are correct that he probably wasn’t missed at those reunions.
HoneyBaked
I’m waiting for someone to put a stopwatch to 810’s programming as I would love to see a breakdown of the amount of commercial content compared to sports content.
If they do 25 minutes of actual sports discussion in an hour I would be shocked.
Chuck D
I agree with Honeybaked. I get in my car at about 4:55 after work. I hear about 30 to 45 seconds of KK talking and then commercials to about 5:06. Its the same thing with all their shows. The top of the hour is a wasteland.
As for the Pods trade, what would you have them do Hall? He wasn’t going to be around next year and doesn’t fit into their future plans. Trading him means they get to give Alex Gordon a shot at earning the starting outfield job for next year. Now if they can just get rid of Ankiel and Guillen too I’d be ecstatic. For those of you getting mad they got prospects in return, what would you like back for a below average outfielder? Any major league talent you get will be below average (same as Pods), you have to go with prospects. Those guys have upside, they may not realize it but its like playing the lottery. You need as many scratcher tickets as possible to see if you can get a big winner.
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GH: I understand the need to move Podsenik. My comment was in response to Clink’s above quote that no one should criticize the trade. While it might prove to be good for the Royals in the long run, those fans buying Royals’ season tix year after year have got to be tired of that song. I know I’ve heard from more than a few.
JimmyD
GH : I think the Chiefs will be 6-point dogs against San Diego, even in Arrowhead.
I can’t imagine the Chiefs being more than 3-point dogs
chuck
San Diego is not close to what they were. McNiel will not be there, V Jackson is out, etc. SD Still wins thr division (Phil Rivers), but Monday night, first game of the year, Chiefs win by 10. And I am NO Homer.
San Diego has fallen hard back to the pack.
Dexter Morgan
GH: I understand the need to move Podsenik. My comment was in response to Clink
Stevo
I have no idea if Dayton Moore is doing the right thing. He probably doesn’t really know either. But this is how you have to do it with our owner. This is the only way. Now if all these prospects are busts, then that’s a different story. But the only way the Royals are ever going to be good is if they build it up with their own talent or someone else’s cheap talent coming in the form of trades. You could fire Moore if you wanted and the next guy would come in and say…”well this is kind of our only option.” Signing Farnsworth for $4M isn’t goign to get you into the playoffs. Period.
Yell at Moore or Hillman or Yost all you want…but the only guy who is really responsible for the mess that is the Royals is Glass. He did everything on the dirt cheap and set the team back at least 15 years in the process as far as the development of a big-league team is concerned. At least Moore isn’t overvaluing these turds like GM’s have done in the past here. He’s being realistic that anything for Podsednik now is better than nothing for him later.
And to pull off ANY trade for Ankiel deserves a pat on the back. Horrible, horrible signing.
But I digress…at least, in my opinion, Moore is trying. Fire him if you want for making the wrong moves, but at least he tries. Until the last few years you couldn’t say that about Glass…and now we’re reaping what our owner has sowed.
MoCrash
“Proud: feeling pleasure or satisfaction over something regarded as highly honorable or creditable to oneself”
I actually agree with the “once-proud” assessment. Pride refers to an attitude, not necessarily the reality which matches it. Those ’60s and early ’70s teams were indeed proud, and successful, even if there weren’t many titles (3 AFC championships and two Super Bowl appearances with one win from 1960-69).
The ’90s teams didn’t get to the Super Bowl, but were consistent winners and — proudly — filled Arrowhead with a sea of red and wall of noise. When the networks came to town, their announcers routinely referred to the SRO crowds and world-class tailgating. And try getting a ticket; there were few available and a three-year backlog on season tickets.
Whether the Chiefs had much reason to be proud for their on-field accomplishments is immaterial; there was a pride in the locker room with the likes of Neil Smith, Derrick Thomas, Marcus Allen and Joe Montana and pride in the community for their team.
The Truth
Hey Greg, why haven’t you asked the question for the last 3 years: Will 610’s coverage of the Royals be affected with a new contract. 810’s deal isn’t even to the extreme of entercom’s and yet we go on and on about 810’s and you completely ignore the hypocrisy of saying one station is biased with a contract and not mention the other…..but being biased and hating 810 is what we’ve come to expect from your stuff
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GH: I have listened to 610 since they signed a contract with the Royals in 2008 and they have shown no signs of slanted favoritism for the Royals. If anything, their on-air hosts are more critical of the Royals and Glass than they were when 810 had the Royals rights.
I am concerned though about how 810 will cover the Chiefs because the early signs are that they might be a bit biased toward their new partner. Let’s hope their on-air talent proves to be as free to speak their mind as 610’s on the Royals.