OTC: Jose Guillen Goes Off On Royals And Then Beats ChiSox
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jjskck
The first statement quoted here is self-contradictory. What he calls “fundamentals”, I call “trading outs for bases”. It’s been proven to be a bad strategy in most situations, and that old fashioned mindset is exactly how you get 11 hits and score one run. Well, that and the stunning inability of this club to get an extra base hit.
Stevo
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Stevo
…Glass isn’t eating any salaries. He’ll just transfer Guillen to sporting goods at Walmart. When you visit him don’t forget to say hi to Trey Hillman, Walmart’s angriest-looking greeter!
Mike
Stevo is on it- talk about the pot calling the kettle black. The only thing Jose was trying to do in the 8th inning on Tues night was hit a home run to put us up 5-4. I will give him credit that this one time he was able to single to left, but he was not going up there trying to do the little things.
And the fact that each year, Jose does the same thing in bashing this team through an interview is getting old. I think he might be one or two weeks later than he was last year and he probably was giving an extra week or two due to the firing of Hillman to see if Yost had an effect. I think his new-found playing time has made him think he is relevant again. It doesn’t. I’m hoping it is a way to show national league teams he’s more than a half a step faster than the cryogenically frozen Ted Williams.
I also think it is extremely comical to hear him praise the Angels for being such a great team. This is the same team that threw him out during a pennant chase. Yeah, everyone else doesn’t get it Jose.
DonkeyPunch
does anybody even care?
JoHawk
Ho-Say is just working on next year’s contract. Whatever he gets, he’ll suck until the last year.
dp
Sad to say this, but Jose is right. This team has been awful fundamentally for at least the last 10 years…As much as he’s disliked around baseball, when healthy, the guy produces. That’s why he always gets picked up by someone despite his horsesh-t attitude.
MandDShagger
Sing to the tune of the National Anthem…but not all of it. I realized this, like anything to do with the Royals is a waste of my time.
Jose can you see
That your contract is up
So shut your taco hole
And just play good baseball.
You are way over paid
Just like the rest of the team
So shut the fuck up and just go win some games
Take some more steroids
Bulk up like the big boys
And maybe someday
You won’t be a douchebag
DON STJO
The guy is right. I think Jose is a gamer
jojo
JOSE IS 100% RIGHT…THIS ROYALS TEAM IS
HORRIBLE.
YOU CAN TRADE OR KICK OFF ANY ONE OF THESE
LAZY WORTHLESS BASTARDS AND THEY ARE
STILL BAD.
YOU CAN TRADE GRIENKE…BUTLER…DEJESUS
AND AVILES AND STILL BE OUT OF CONTETNION
IN MAY…
NO FIRE..NO ANGER AT LOSING…
JOSE IS RIGHT…THE WORST TEAM IN BASEBALL.
Any one who says jose is wrong is a fucking
idiot and a big fucking liar.
Moore must go. Yost must go. This team needs
a plan and a leader to go back to basics.
Jose may not be the best player and may be
a prima dona but he’s right and every one
in this town and in baseball knows.
He’s right about minnesota…watch them play.
Glass can trade him but problem still remains…
royals are a worthless mess….lets be honest
and one player coming out and speaking his
mind won’t change that.
When your team lacks pwoer to score bunches
of runs…has fewer home runs than any other
team…when the cy young winner loses 3 games
1-0….you’ve got a huge problem…and
jose guillen hit it on the head.
John
This is interesting. I agree with Jose. I remember when Johnny Damon was traded, he said a lot of stuff about ownership, the front office, AB that fans didn’t like. Talk radio had a field day with his comments.
Damon didn’t think ownership and the front office didn’t care about winning or their completely incompetent and didn’t know what they were doing. Looking back, he was right!
The way the Royals are going, five years from now we’ll look back and see that Jose was right as well.
jojo
Truth hurts! The truth about this team hurts
becasue it’s true.
Not one person in this town can really disagree
with jose or damon. The people glass brought
in to run this team are incompetent.
Glass spent the money on salaries for comparative markets and what does it buy him.
What jose said…damon said…other players
who have left said is that these are not
real baseball people.
Why didn’t other teams bring in managers from
japan? Are they stupid. Are the yankees/
red sox/phillies etc. stupid passing over
great nip managers. Yet idiot moore goes and
grabs one and he’s a total failure.
Players no other team wants…(too many to
mention) end up in kc. Are the yankees/red sox/
phillies/tampa bay etc. stupid. If they wanted
a player they have more money than kc to bring
him in. Yet every player on their last leg
ends up on our roster.
Jose may be a loser in his own right…but he’s
right…no spark..no winning atmosphere…
he may not be the right one to say it…but I
guarantee other players know it but never said
anything.
Seitzer said it last year. The young players would not listen to his advice. So guillen saying that is not new.
Until the team brings in big time winner
manger…player personel people who cn
evaluate and manipulate talent (NOT TAKEING
A CAN’T MISS THIRD BASEMEN AND AFTER YEARS
OF TRYING MOVE HIM TO THE OUTFIELD ONLY TO
KLET HIM SIT IN aaa BALL.)
You can disagree with the messenger here…
call him names and say he’s a low life…but
you can’t disagree with his message…
THIS TEAM IS A BOUT AS BAD AS IT GETS. WE’VE
SEEN LAST YEAR SO MANY ERRORS BASED ON THE
LACK OF FUNDAMENTALS…players who don’t want to
listen to others…players who are in it for
themselves….so until you change moore/yost
and the rest of the worthless paycheck grabbers
who would not be in major leagues anywhere
else you are stuck with a team thats out of
contention..out of mind by the middle of may.
KILL THE MESSENGERS….NOT THE MESSAGES.
Cliffy
I like it, Shagger. Just don’t end it with “CHIEFS!”
smartman
As long as David Glass owns this team they will be awful. He will never be taken seriously by players, managers, coaches or employees. It’s a money deal for him. Until we get an owner who’s not afraid to walk into the clubhouse after an embarassing loss and break balls and every now and then tell someone to get the fuck out we are destined to be losers. That being said people will still spend money on tix and merch from this abysmal team and with their sponsors and nothing will change. We need Dr. Phil to come in and treat us for battered fan syndrome.
Jip
I’m glad Flannagan landed on his feet, but it’s own fault he fell on his ass anyway. He got the Top of the Morning job and preceded to spend the next 10 years mailing it in. It was like he was semi-retired.
I don’t want to see anybody lose their job, but when the KC Star was forced to make layoffs, Flanagan’s lack of hard work made him a pretty easy choice.
d
Go Jose! Glad to hear somebody with the Royals publicly show frustration for this losing season. Wish David Glass was more like this guy.
MandDShagger
Jip, NOBODY at the Star works very hard. They all mail it in. You could cut the existing head count by 50%, hire a bunch of part timers for the crap that Jenee, Hendricks and Penn write and still put out the same lack of content and quality cage liner they do now.
In a city this size nobody at the Star that is a reporter or a columnist should get paid more than $50K as a BASE salary.
A degree from J-School today is right up there with a degree in Liberal Arts or History. If you’re good at your craft, you’ll rise to the top and make some mongo-shackle, but for strokin’ in your undies from home even $50K is too much.
John
Greg, I wonder if you read the Pitch article about the “Royals Curse” ?
It’s interesting how many bad trades, draft picks this team made. Even in the 80s when this was a good team the Royals made a lot of bad deals. Trading Danny Jackson for Kurt Stillwell. Getting Storm and Mark Davis, ect.
One thing I think doesn’t get enough play around here is a bad idea of the Royals picking Mike Sweeney over Carlos Beltran.
They picked the All-American, Christian male over the shy Puerto Rican because Sweeney would be easier to make the face of the team, sell t-shirts and put in commercials.
Too bad Sweeney coulden’t pick up a bat without getting on the DL for a month.
smartman
John, I agree that there is a curse on the Royals, it’s called David Glass.
MoCrash
In baseball, everything is relative. Guillen is right, the Royals aren’t fundamentally sound, but they haven’t been since Brett retired. However, they’re more fundamentally sound now than they were when Damon was with them and several seasons thereafter. Hillman, a strategic blunderer, did one thing right: he made them more professional in their approach than they were under Pena and Bell (most of the slackness attributable to the Pena regime). The are not, as Petro asserted this morning, “the worst in baseball” when it comes to fundamentals; anybody watch the Mariners or Astros play lately?
Put in perspective, the Royals are a team which is improving, if grudgingly slow — current prorated record: 70-92 — and has some good young players around which to build (unless a knock-em-dead great deal is offered) and coming up through the system. They are also routinely competitive with even good teams, as the Cardinals and ChiSox found out, so fans usually have moments of hope in the late innings. They don’t have a lot of pop, and the league leader in GIDP, so have to use small ball in a home run era (although, at .93 per game, 2010 is on track being the first sub-1.00 since 1993; 3* perfect games is no accident in a season with the lowest OPS since ’92). Hence, the Royals don’t score runs as easily as teams with mashers; they have to play fundamental ball, scoring runs any way they can and preventing them from being scored by sound pitching and defense (neither of which have been in abundant supply), better than the teams with power.
If Guillen’s comments make some Royals go back to basics in their thinking, it could prove helpful. The problem is that Guillen may be trying to fill the Royals’ leadership gap — and face it, who on this team is really in position to lead, by virtue of the combination of ability and temperament? — when he is such an oddball that other guys won’t follow him. If the Royals are going to be successful, leadership — players who are so established that their word and ethic are univerally respected in the clubhouse — is essential. But they’ll have to bust the bank to get it if it doesn’t come from within.
Which brings us to Glass, which smartman aptly addressed earlier. With profits nearly guaranteed in MLB, unless the franchise is financially mismanaged (which is one sin not possessed by Glass), the incentive to win is lessened for the bottom-line conscious. So Royals’ fans are in the unenviable position of having a franchise — as opposed to a ball team — which is fairly stable, but not one possessed of any vision. That leads to long-term mediocrity, up to the point that stability no longer matters to some fans. Until a desire to win overrules Glass’ bottom-line business sense more often — in other words, putting his faith in the franchise’s potential upside, financially and competitively — the Royals will remain where they are until they develop enough prospects that they coalesce into a winning team and have the ability to fill holes. When, and whether, this will ever happen is anybody’s guess.
Paul
Guliien is absolutely right in his assessment of the current Royals.
jojo
stop blaming glass. He’s given mooore money..
salaries…his own staff nd look where its
gotten him.
Look for mooooooore to be on career builder
soon.
He’s done a poor job in bringing quality
americn legue talent to kc…he’s had mny
duds…he’s terrible at evaluating talent
and he still rides the 85 royals championshiop
team to bring in crowds…
mooore…you’re outta here.
Glass gave him what he wanted. Money…revamped
stadium…cash to bring in young players and
the results have b een almost nil.
Maybe its time to change managers again.
Theres some talent on the team but who wants
to believe this is a good team…
bye yost….bye moore….
John
JoJo, Glass is to blame for this mess. Since Ewing died the only other constent has been Glass.
MrOlathe
They’ve consistently lost as well.
JimmyD
Moore has stockpiled TONS of pitching in the minors. Give a little more time. Soon, Moustakas, Hosmer, Derrick Johnson and our other quality bats will make the show. We’re a year and a half away