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Ptolemy
GH, you are allowing your Husker roots to blind your perspective. Nebraska built a football reputation on baskatball schools’ football programs. You won’t ve able to build on that in the Big 10. You cannot ignore that.
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GH: Pt, I’m not sure what I wrote that gave the impression I am blindly calling for Nebraska to be dominant in the B10. I have been saying for the past five years that Nebraska’s glory days as an annual national power have gone south with all the warm-weather talent. I do think the B10 will give them a chance to be on more equal footing with an all cold-weather conference. But you are correct, there is no going back to the 60s, 70s and 80s — when six of the Big 8 schools treated football like it was a club sport.
smartman
So using Husker logic we can expect a bigger and better Runza and a Kansas Furniture Mart in the future?
Warren Buffet has all the money Nebraska needs and he can probably get Bill and Melinda Gates to pony up so I don’t buy the money angle.
This “career” move by the Huskers is the biggest mistake since David Caruso left NYPD Blue.
I can’t see Nebraska winning the Big 10 title in football or basketball anytime soon. The legacy schools will treat the newbie like an ugly red-shirted step child.
BTW Greg, it’s a “convenience” store.
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GH: I selfishly was rooting for Mizzou to get a B10 bid so that my kids would graduate from a B10 school. I think the move will add a level of academic prestige to NU that they could never have achieved in the B12. I think the football will be about the same
ShawnF
Let’s put the athletics aside for a minute, as they said.
Go check http://www.usnews.com/articles/education/best-colleges/2010/03/15/athletic-conference-breakdown-2010-big-ten.html and you will see the bottom three teams are Michigan State, Iowa , and Indiana, all ranked at 71.
Nebraska is 96. 96! They are not in the academic class of these other schools (unfortunately, none of the Big 12 schools are, either). To say they are going to instantly ascend into rarefied airspace is a joke.
Nebraska BBall will get pounded in the Big 10. Football, let’s see how they do. I think they’ll do well for the most part against the also-rans, but let’s see how they handle Penn State, Ohio State and Michigan all in the same year. That’s like playing Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M every year. Let’s see how it shakes out.
Bottom line: Nebraska didn’t want to be in the Big 12 (let alone the Big 8). They finally got their dream chance to leave. Don’t keep institutions around that don’t want to be here. Bring folks who do, and move forward
jojo
lee barneck had it right. If it was just about
the sports…no big deal..
but the overall effect of the research money..
the grants etc. have a far greater effect
than the sports money.
I said it over a year ago..nd wrote about
it dozens of times. The sports were important
but the other factors far outweighed any
effect that sports did. I talked repeatedly why mu wanted to move. They still do. And they still will..its just a matter of time and opportunity..
and no rules about leaving have been written
by the new big 12….
MU will move…they believe thats their future..
and sports takes a back seat to the money
from other sources that would be tapped into
as amember of the big 10.
Lee just reiterated what I’ve been saying for
a year….is he just now getting it?
Are the pros just now realizing what I’ve been
saying for a yeart?
Are the people who get paid to write this stuff
just now understanding what I said for
a year….that sports is now the secondary
issue in the move for mu…
MU will evnetually end up in the big 10..
for whatever reasons (which noone actually
knows) they didn’t get in this point in time…
its just a temporary fix until the big 10
expands again (soon) and the chips and bullshit
start flying again.
Gavin
If I could pose an administrative question here, how is the Big XII going to schedule the season after next? This fall we’re going to play the standard Big XII schedule, right? And two years after that, if the currently expected league roster holds, we will be playing a true round robin where we play everyone in football and everyone twice in basketball. But what about that one year in the middle when Nebrasaka will be gone but Colorado will still be around? Does anyone know how that is going to work out?
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GH: Word out of Boulder is that they too are now looking to leave the B12 after next season and begin Pac 10 play in 2012. It makes sense not to have the two lameduck schools around any longer than one season.
MandDShagger
Lots of premature ejaculation on OU being a favorite to win it all. My crystal ball tells me that the BCS champ will come from the SEC or the Big 10. I guess I won’t be surprised if I go to WalMart today and they have the Christmas stuff out.
JS
Here is the real reason Nebraska chose to leave the Big 12. NU could not take getting less $ than KU,MU,CU,A&M,and OSU. They could probably accept being behind OU and Texas but not the rest. I would say that any of the teams below OU and Texas would probably have done the same thing. No matter how you perform you get an equal share in the Big 10. Greg, if it is about academics then Nebraska should join the Ivy league not the Big 10.
1. Oklahoma, $12,209,800
2. Texas, $11,783,807
3. Kansas, $11,494,441
4. Missouri, $10,449,437
5. Texas A&M, $10,180,582
6. Oklahoma State, $10,026,603
7. Colorado, $9,767,426
8. Nebraska, $9,728,502
9. Texas Tech, $9,195,931
10. Baylor, $9,068,351
11. Iowa State, $8,913,045
12. Kansas State, $8,374,959
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GH: JS, I don’t think academics ruled on NU’s decision to bolt but it made it easier to leave long-standing rivalries and a conference the Big Red fan base loved. Bottom line is this; NU did exactly what any other B12 North school would have done if given the same circumstances of a crumbling B12 and the uncertainty of its future. Will it prove to be a wise move? Let’s hope it works out better than the post-Solich era.
Gavin
Colorado leaving early would make sense from a logistical standpoint, but can they afford it? My understanding is that the buyout costs ramp up sgnificantly if they only give one year’s worth of notice and all indications are that Colorado will already have a hard time paying for two years. They wanted to fire Dan Hawkins and couldn’t afford his $3MM buyout. How will they come up with this money?
I think CU really screwed the pooch on this one. It seems obvious they thought they wouldn’t have to pay any exit fees because there would be no Big XII to pay them to. They jumped for the lifeboat and it turns out it’s sinking too. Nebraska can afford it’s buyout but the kind of economic hit Colorado is about to take is the kind that will wound them for a decade and the result will show up on the field, I think.
Hammy
If simply being a Big Ten school makes your state flourish and grow what is up with Iowa?
War Drive
A lot of hate here regarding NE’s leaving the Big 12. Too bad any of the rest of your schools would’ve done the same thing…if they only could’ve gotten that invite.
Jealousy….jealousy…
Johnny Utah
first, I have no problem with a school looking out for its best interests. As a KU grad, I only care about KU. we should do what’s best for us.
Second, I’m not convinced NEB’s move to the big 10 will make them better.
-they lose 100 yr rivalries,
-away games are now much further away for fans who love to travel,
-move to a weaker sports conference (does anyone remember seeing these big 10 teams in football and basketball? they suck!) in general yet will likely have tougher games b/c there’s no mystique like playing KU, MU, ISU and KSU
-no longer get to play in texas, so forget those recruits.
BS
Will the B10 label help NU’s academic rep as much as having NU hurts the B10’s academic rep? I doubt it.
Monkeyhawk
And then there’s the old joke about the ‘Huskers.
“What does the ‘N’ stand for on Nebraska’s helmets?
“Nowledge.”
Ptolemy
Academic rep for universities known for their athletic programs is kind of like being the best speller in the Dyslexic wing of the local elementary school.
Omaha
Had it still been the old Big 8 I truly believe that NE would not be going to the Big 10. However, they had no desire to remain in the Northern SWC with TX sending out directives and controlling championship locations. I will not be surprised to see Bball end up in Dallas if the conference holds together. As far as academics, there was a time when the N meant knowledge, but great progress has been made in the last 10 years and with this move it will continue and improve.
jojo
again…people…if it was strictly football
or sports money…nebraska would have probably
stayed…but the league was in doubt and they
bolted…
if you read the articles..or the 30 articles
i’ve written…there’s hundreds orf millions
of dollars in additional research money
and grant and academic dollars in being part
of the big 10.
MU knows this…thats why they came out for
mvong to the big 10…..
it’s more than just the 10-15 million from the
sports….its the millions of dollars..hundreds
of millions of dollars that they get as
part of the consortium…
would ou go after that…hell yes…
texas…probably..
osu…hell yes
ku….bet lews last dollar he would
ksu…in a heartbeat…
mu/…..wish they had…
so when you talk about husker move concerning
sports dollars or sports…forget it..
its bigger and more powerful reasons that
just that…its the money they will now be
a part of that floods the universtiy..remember..
they are the state of nebraska…not much else
there…this will be huge for the huskers…
bigger than even texas’s share of tv money….
Ross
Johnny Miller is crazy. His best line on Sunday – “Dustin Johnson is leaking oil faster than BP.” It prompted several seconds of uncomfortable silence from Jim Nantz.
I wouldn’t call him the best announcer in sports – but he will say things that absolutely no one else has the balls to say. I don’t agree with him that often, but it’s surely entertaining.
Rick
How long ago did Johnny Miller’s career end. In fact did it ever start. He was a golden boy who was suppose to be the next golden bear. But it never happened. So I guess if you are a flop you resent others greatness.
Cousin Eddie
Since Bubba Starling is just a senior in high school, I’ll cut some slack here. Bubba IS a great athlete, but when he came upon some of the big boys from Hutchinson High School in the state championship football game last fall, he didn’t do so well. I think he’d better develope that fast ball. Nobody body slams you in baseball.
You gotta love that football coach at Hutch. When asked when he would junk his offense for the high flying spread offenses that permiate high school footbal he said, “Yeah, we’re gonna do that just as soon as we stop winning state football championships.” I believe last season was their 6th straight?
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GH: What Hutch has done to Kansas HS football of late is flat-unreal. Last year they treated Rockhust like Westport High. I’m not all that surprised that Bubba got stuffed by the Salty Salt Hawks.
JS
JoJo have you ever been to Nebraska on Saturday when NU is playing football? The place bleeds Husker Red from one corner of the state to the other.
Do you think that the citzens of Nebraska would be willing to finish 8th every year in the Big 10 because they will be getting all those Academic $$?
The state’s psyche is tied up in Husker football. Just look at Greg as an example. All those great academic research dollars won’t mean a thing if Nebraska doesn’t win in the Big 10!
I would say the same thing for MU,KU or whoever else went to the Big 10! Winning is what most alumni want not research dollars.
jojo
js…the curators/accountants/cpas/business
departments at NU are counting the money.
Of course they want to win…but with states
broke they need cash bad…and within the next
3-4 years when the stimulus money is gone…
and the feds stop paying states…nebraska
will be no different than california only a
smaller scale…
its still about money…and nebraska needs
it like missouri/kansas/etc.
jojo
THE REAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MICHELSON AND TIGER!
You only needed to see the interviews after the
US OPEN to see how different these guys were.
Tiger was wound up…almost pissed…said he
made 3 mental errors that cost him the tournament…angry/upset/only talked about
himself and HIS game.
Mickelson: his interview was classy. Said he
was blessed to play on pebble beach course.
Was upbeat…friendly….at ease with his
finish even though he didn’t win. Joked about
NOT finishing second.
I guess phil shows us that winning a golf
game isn’t the main priority in his life.
That after his wife’s battle with cancer
and his personal life that just being fortunate
to be playing..and having your family healthy..
and being at peace in your life…that was
morevaluable to him than winning a trophy.
And all this while Tiger still doesnt get it.
All the money…all the fame…all the
accolades and fans are fleeting. Maybe he’ll
learn from Phil.
Maybe we all should learn from phil.
SweetRelish
Johnny Miller’s best line from last weekend after a Mickelson drive: “That is either a really good shot, or a really bad one.”
I was both bored and inspired by this expert analysis.
JimmyD
Lefty is the biggest phony on tour. There’s a reason he’s one of the most disliked players in the world and I’m guessing it’s not jealousy. Let’s scrutinize Tiger a little more. We all know you’re a bigot Jojo