OTC: NU Gone By Friday? KU/K-State Begin New Civil War
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DonkeyPunch
Nick ‘the nose’ Wright claims that this will be the end of KU basketball as we know it. Though I don’t necessarily agree completely, what in the world will happen to KU? Rumors are they could join the Big Least, but I don’t see that happening. I guess it was fun for 100+ years
Ptolemy
Ptolemy
If Osborne and Perlman trigger this, Nebraska men’s sports will be dead for 50 years. Nebraska football barely caught its breath this season and is still in the first years under the Nose Era. Are they going to improve trading Iowa State, Kansas, Missouri, and Colorado for Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, and Iowa? Those defenses will perennially squash Booffense. Nebraska basketball is dead going in. In the Big 10, Nebraska basketball will become Colorado basketball. For Husker haters, it will actually be enjoyable to watch.
OlatheCat
If Kietzman’s story was phony, then why are Nebraska and Missouri scrambling this week to decide if they’re in or out? If the story was phony, all they would have to do is come out and say “there is no offer from the Big 10. We’re committed to the Big 12.” They have not done that! That tells me all I need to know.
Gavin
I didn’t catch it all, but this morning Mike DeCourcey was on 810 saying that he didn’t think that Friday was going to be anything special. He pointed out that it wasn’t all that long ago that NCAA tournament expansion to 96 teams was an absolutely done deal and nothing could stop it, so maybe all the guessing and reporting isn’t entirely accurate.
Personally, I still don’t get what this “ultimatum” Dan Beebe issued is supposed to do. “Nebraska, Mizzou, you have until the end of the week to tell us what you are doing!” Ummm, or what, Dan? Are you gonna kick out Nebraska and Mizzou? Of course not. And I don’t understand why Osborne is feeling the need to live up to Beebe’s timeline. After all, what is NU going to say? They’re going to say the same thing the’ve always said “we are a loyal member of the Big XII.” Unless Nebraska actually has an invitation from the Big Ten in hand, there’s no way they quit the Big XII. And if they have that invitation, they will either leave or use it to extract some considerations from Texas, right? I’m not saying Nebraska won’t end up in the Big Ten, but it sure is weird that no announcement has been made of any invitations but Nebraska expects that by Friday they’ll be memebers of that conference. And if that invitation has been issued, I don’t believe it could be kept this tight a secret.
I still think the Big Ten is using Nebraska and MU like a dishrag whore (or like the Pittsburgh Penguins used Kansas City) for the purposes of gaining leverage over Notre Dame.
And I still think KU will find a power conference in which to land. I don’t know which one and it might end up being the Big East, but Kietzman is wrong about KU and K-State being the same. That’s not a shot at K-State, Ptolemy, it’s just the truth. If these talks were happening in 1998 or whenever it was that K-State was flirting with a national championship, maybe things owuld be different, but they just don’t have the alumni base, the money, the research capabilities or the student body that KU has. I know that football is what is driving this and I don’t think that any transition to another league will be easy for KU, but in the end the Board of Regents will have to decide that having one major and one mid-major is better than having two midmajors. My guess is that there will be some concessions like KU will have to play K-state every year as part of a non-conference schedule in all sports (and the legislature might even use this as an opportunity to force KU and K-State to play Wichita State every year), but in the end KU will find a home. All the talk about KU being absoluetly screwed is misplaced. It will be a painful transition, but even with football as the main driver, KU basketball will find a place to land, even if it’s not as soft a landing as I might like.
Gavin
And before the flames start licking at my heels, I am well aware that KU has not been mentioned in any of the conference expansion talks except to point out that they haven’t beenm entioned in any of the expansion talks. I get it. But I still think that when the dust settles some BCS conference will end up wanting KU, even though they aren’t currently in the discussion.
Eric
I have no clue what’s going to happen. I’ve never seen a more fluid situation with wildfire-like speculation that feeds on itself and creates it’s own weather patterns.
Ptolemy
Gavin, you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and I’ll give you 10-1 odds which hand gets filled first.
You Jayhawks need to face facts, on the world collegiate money stage, KState and KU are mid-majors.
Gavin
Tell you what Ptolemy, I’ll bet you fifty bucks that if the Big XII splits, KU will and K-State will not wind up in the same conference (i.e., the Mountain West). I can’t see a scenario in which they wind up in different conferences and are both power conferences or in which K-State is in a BCS conference and KU isn’t. Can you? Fifty bucks to the charity of the winner’s choice. I will give the money to Greg Hall if I lose and you do the same if you lose? Deal?
Dale
GH: Kietzman
dp
Tom Osborne is trying to f-ck the rest of the league over because he’s tired of the league catering to Texas. Think about when the Big XII started…NU was had the great team, the top stadium, all the media love for their program and coach. Look at it now, Texas and Mack Brown have the great team and are the media darlings. Not to mention Texas’ renovated stadium makes NU’s look like an giant high school stadium (I’ve been to both, not even close…Texas’ is so much nicer). Now, Osborne wants to wreck the Big XII and be an afterthought in the Big 10+ just to settle the score with Texas and is having a hard time realizing his school was once dominant, and isn’t anymore.
I hope ND goes to the Big 10 and NU and MU have to come back and slum it in the Big XII. That would be classic, Osborne and JoJo could hold each other and talk about what could have been…
dp
Gavin said- I still think the Big Ten is using Nebraska and MU like a dishrag whore (or like the Pittsburgh Penguins used Kansas City) for the purposes of gaining leverage over Notre Dame.
Agree 100%, I’ll believe all these rumors when I see NU on a Big 10+ schedule.
Cliffy
I’m nearing conference realignment overload. Nope, I’m already there. I have to stop reading this stuff. I have to get some work done.
Ptolemy
Gavin, I only bet on things I have control over. You wanting to give $50 to charity doesn’t make KU any more of a bigger horse in the game than you want to believe they are. Give your $50 away. Charity shouldn’t have to depend on the bruised ego of a fan with a self-inflated self-view and spend your time worrying about whether your basketball program gets slammed for your crooked AD’s role in concealing drug violations and academic ineligibilities.
DonkeyPunch
Ptolemy sed:
Charity shouldn
Chuck
The people saying that the Mountain West with the remainder of the Big 12 and Boise being a mid-major conference still are crazy. That conference would be a shoe-in for the BCS. Assuming NU and MU go to the Big 10 and the Big 12 South goes to the Pac-10, that leaves CU, KU, K-State, and ISU. That’s 7 BCS appearances in the last 7 years. That’s the same number as the Big East and ACC and they have automatic berths. The Big 12 would also be non-existent meaning there’s an open spot.
Adding 2 of Cincinnati/Louisville (assuming ACC/SEC pick apart the Big East)/Memphis/Houston/Fresno to get to 16 teams (or keeping it at 12 or 14 and getting rid of some of the bottom-feeders) and that number may get even better.
That’s a major football conference (better than the ACC and Big East), maybe a little weak basketball-wise but that clearly doesn’t seem to matter. Adding Louisville and Memphis would obviously help.
Rick
Yawn. When does football season start. I’d rather talk WNBA then this.
Gavin
Well, Ptolemy, if nothing else, I’m glad we can at least agree that your school is a midmajor.
As for your decision to not bet, I understand. But why don’t you go ahead and enlighten us, Ptolemy, on your prediction on what will happen? Will KU and K-State be tied together in a conference if the Big XII breaks up? If not, which conference do you think will house them each? Will one school be a BCS school and the other no longer affiliated with the BCS? Come on, Ptolemy, tell us.
nick
Greg, you’re right. The 2010 Big 12 season will be VERY interesting should Nebraska leave. The Oct. 16 game between NU and Texas will be especially interesting.
Tom Osborne’s surely relishing that he’s making the Longhorns squirm.
I think Osborne correctly assumes Texas has very little desire to join a 16-team Pac 10 conference. Osborne probably fantasizes daily at the thought of bolting for the Big 10 and leaving Texas behind in a crumbled mess of a conference.
Problem is, it’s also gonna crumble for LONG-time partner conference programs like KU and good people like Dr. Tom’s buddy Turner Gill.
As a KU fan, it’s hard to be an Osborne fan right now, but am holding out hope that Notre Dame says “yes” to the Big 10.
Ptolemy
Gavin, you’ve ceased to engage me. Go back to stroking your feathered bean.
And enjoy probation.
Gavin
Thanks, Ptolemy. Enjoy anonymity, irrelevance and mediocrity while watching your big brother go on to a power conference. Mostly, of course, enjoy the Moutain West. Fans who currently flock to Manhattan should be very comfortable in the more arid parts of the country. Fort Collins should be a fun trip for you guys. You can compare and contrast silo and mine construction techniques.
Stevo
“Missouri got played like a fiddle.”-KK
If they don’t eventually get an invite, MU did get played. Welcome to the scrap heap boys. We’re sitting on this rusted out refrigerator. You can have that stained mattress over there!
Gavin
I love how Kietzman is now saying that Delany went back on his word. A few weeks ago he reported that the Big Ten had extended actual offers to Mizzou. Now they went back on their word. If they extended an actual offer, I have no doubt Mizzou was gone. Now suddenly the firm offer that was made never existed? This guy is such a liar you can’t even believe him if he says “hello.”
DonkeyPunch
Kietzman is hysterical. I wonder if he actually believes what he is saying
Gavin
jojo, we all know that everything you have ever posted is true. So, is Kietzman just totally wrong on this? He makes it sound like MU is gonna get hosed over here. Given that everything you have ever posted here is true, does this damage your credibility at all? You okay, big guy?
jojo
relax….all of you know that I am never wrronng. Kronke and Laurie just finished up handjobs and gave the dirty tissus to Paige and they are on the case i tell you…..not only has everythinng i have evr posted is wrong, I saw my mom and dad have sex once and i know how the world workks This is the calm before the MU storm because MU has the academics and the fooootballl programme on the rise to….take over the planet zortron where i vacation with my infalteable girl. Mike anderson is stoopid i know but we will get a better coach when we join the bigten10 later today….i told you all how it woudl happen and it has been just like i said. check your facxks and you will see that i was predicted this to happyen befor chrismas and it is toolate…now for it to not happen. greg hall stfu! yuo know that we both like smaller children but you like them for gay purposes and I olny make them blow me and the goat. Mu wioll be stronger because of this and the street s will run with the blooood of the nonbelievers and it is unpossible that i am wrong. mU will be in the bigg ten. Mark my words, here me now and rue this day, for i Am jojo, destroyer of planets and ruler of worlds. help me pull this from my bunghole now pleaze… you cunt.
Stevo
JOJO??? CLIFFY??? WHERE ARE YOU???
Best analogy contest! Go.
Mizzou was trying to get knocked up by the Big 10. They were going at it for a month or two. Having a great time! Laughing in pleasure at what they were about to do to KU. Right when the Big 10 was supposed to deliver their load, they pulled out and took a big dump on your chest!!! How does it smell Misery? HOW DOES IT SMELL???
jojo’s brain
relax
Gavin
Come on jojo, you are usually all over this stuff. Where are you buddy?
Stevo
Jojo’s driving to Lincoln right now with a shotgun. He can’t be reached!
Gavin
Stevo- here is my analogy:
It’s like the movie “The Sure Thing” and in this case Mizzou is John Cusack. Only the guy who set up the sure thing is the Big Ten and that guy, because he is a dick, sent a fake picture of a girl who would never in a million years have sex with Mizzou. So Mizzou spends his whole winter break with a very attractive girl (who he won’t even talk to because he is focused on the hot chick who is going to have no-strings-attached filthy sex with him) traipsing across the country to nail the hot girl who he thought was into him. He finally gets to his friend’s school and his “friend” says “Psych! You wanna nail someone, we have this really ugly girl who might throw you a hump, but did you really think the Big Ten was gonna let you get in bed with her?” By the time this is over, the attractive girl he’d spent a week insulting is so sick of him that she is glad to be away from Mizzou, the insufferable prick.
Cliffy
Jeez, Stevo. Get ahold of yourself. So … all of a sudden what KK says is gospel? You want “sources and evidence” from jojo for posting something on a blog, but you’re accepting what KK says without any sources?
Keitzman is a master … the absolute best … at generating drama. He knows he can easily suck in guys like you. I believe I’ll wait for a better source before joining you out on the ledge. although it’s obvious you really want some company out there.
Cliffy
(Laughing at Stevo and Gavin) You two sound like a couple of sissies snapping each other with your towels in the locker room and giggling like little girls.
Stevo
nope i believe frankthetank cliffy. I think you guys got played here for the sole reason that the Big 10 can and wants to be the swingingest dick of swinging dicks. Of course I’m gonna rub it in a little bit. Let me have my fun and then we can all hate the Big 10 and Texas and Nebraska equally. Plus with MU on board, anywhere KU, KSU and Missouri play will still be somewhat relevant. KU and MU fans will probably have a rooting interest in each other to be good as they’ll now be the big dogs in their conferences.
Gavin
Cliffy, not to jump in between you and Stevo, but you’re absolutely right about Kietzman and I will admit that, despite my better judgment, I’ve gotten sucked in by KK in the past. You’re right to restrain yourself from the ledge for the moment and I may well end up eating my words above, but the reason this seems to have some truth buried in there somewhere (to me, at least) is that MU isn’t, as near as I can tell, making any plans to make any announcements.
We’re hearing about all kinds of activity in Lincoln, but we’ve got nothing coming out of Columbia. There seems to be no doubt that if MU had a bona fide offer from the Big Ten they’d take it and it seems fairly likely that Nebraska must have something upon which to base a decision. Again, from MU, nothing. Why is that? I can’t imagine that if the Big Ten wanted MU that they’d be withholding their offer while having extended at least one to Nebraska. that just doesn’t make sense.
Stevo
Or… KU and Missouri would be an attractive addition to a depleted ACC or…maybe, not in my opinion…but maybe, an expanding SEC.
Stevo
I better stop talking Cliffy. Don’t want to use all my bullets before Jojo gets here.
Sean (not jojo)
I told you so! if you all would have listened to me I told you it was just the tip game that the big 10 just did to MU’s aarse………………………… You all just don’t listen.
MIZ……..holy crap we still suck
DonkeyPunch
Welcome to the Smoke & Fire segment……….
DonkeyPunch
Gavin
DonkeyPunch Sez:
Welcome to the Smoke & Fire segment
DonkeyPunch
Gavin
Make sure you send me my royalty check for stealing my schtick.
And Nick the Nose is talking about Strasburg. Must be time for me to get back to work
Gavin
I wasn’t stealing. I was paying homage. Which looks like stealing but means I don’t have to pay you for it.
MrOlathe
Poor Mizzou is like Charlie Brown trying to kick that football. “We’re gonna beat Nebraska. Ahhh nuts. Kicked football TD. We’re gonna beat Colorado. Ahhh, I didn’t know you got 5 downs. We are gonna beat UCLA. What? Why should we guard Tyus Edney? We are going to play for the National Championship. Shit! Who’s covering Meier? We are going to hire the best basketball coach in America! Uh, oops! Bill Self was in room 102 not 101 dumbass. You just picked some surfer hippee from Seattly who’ll be outta coaching in 5 years”.
I’m gonna take a break for now.
Can’t say
Gavin as a HUGE fan of THE SURE THING your analogy was not accurate in the least. Nicolette Sheridan was waiting for him…though she was told he was gay. Much like many of the posters here.
Gavin
You’re right Can’t Say. The analogy isn’t perfect, but it certainly does seem like the Big Ten is a really douchebaggy Anthony Edwards who lured Mizzou to screw things up with Daphne Zuniga and, when all was said and done, all they were gonna get for their troubles was a dry hump with Rosie O’Donnell.
DonkeyPunch
any post that successfully includes Anthony Edwards, Daphne Zuniga, and Rosie O’Donnell is worthly of my appraisal. Well done, sir
Ptolemy
As for analogy, Missouri fans are like that old Brady Bunch episode where Peter thought the family was throwing him a surprise birthday party only to later find out, the hard way, that they weren’t. Mizzou keeps the dream alive even showing up at a press conference and pretending to have a curators meeting to discuss “things” just like Peter comes running down the stairs in his Party suit and tie.
Crush…
Stevo
Ah this blows…I’m going to have my fun with Mizzou but the truth remains that they still got a shot at the Big 10. But they have no leverage and I don’t think they’ll get to go if ND accepts. And biggest thing of all…they’re going to be left twisting in the wind for a long time.
Cliffy
Laugh while you can … Mizzou’s future is still brighter than KU, KSU, ISU, etc. It’s all a bunch of big-business, money-grubbing, string-pulling crap taking place right now. The B10 wants to force ND into making a decision. It’s kind of sad, really … what college athletics has become.
Sometimes I wish I could be like dumbass Dexter Morgan … “I just want to watch the games and I don’t care if men in suits are stealing millions of dollars. I just want to watch the games.”
Gavin
Bad news, haters. Lew Perkins has been cleared of wrongdoing with the exercise equipment and whatnot.
Stevo
Not guilty!!! Haha what a crock. Now get KU in the ACC and all is forgiven.
Stevo
Hey Tigers you’ll like this:
8:18 PM
Big 10 will offer Missouri, Texas, aTm and Notre Dame in addition to Nebraska.
KU fans: This demolishes the Pac-10’s plan to add the South. KU finally has a clear option.
Gavin
This is the first day I can remember where Mizzou was such a prominent player in the news and jojo had nothing to say.
Long-live-the-big12
Let missery and nebraska go. TCU and Boise would be 10x better football school anyways!!!! the big 12 is consistently the best Football AND basketball conference year round…LONG LIVE THE BIG 12!
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