OTC: Scot Pollard Compares 1997 Jayhawks With Cole’s Crop
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JoJo
come on hawker dogs. Put up the money. Put up
or shut the f*ck up.
$1000 bet that KU isnt the national champion.
We put the money in a bank of your choosing
in an escrow account. Winner takes all.
You jayhawk fans are about as big mouth
idiots as there are.
Take your monthly paycheck and put it where
your mouth is.
You all say ku is going to win it all.
They are the greatest team in history (just
like manginos football team)
Now put your money where your mouth is
or shut up.
I’ve got $1000 that says ku doesnt win it
all.
Any beakers willing to take the bet?
If not get off this board…and shut your
beaks up.
MrOlathe
I can’t believe I’m the first to post. This is great. Well, anyway, I agree with Pollard that the 97 starting 5 is better than the 10 starting 5. Although I would take Collins over Vaughn. JV couldn’t shoot. Collins can take over a game. But I like the 2010 bench better. There are a lot of similarities though. Lastly, I would go with the in game coaching of Self over Williams.
DVD
Collins over Vaughn, but Paul Pierce over Xavier any day. I’d give LaFrentz/Pollard a slight edge over Alrich/Morris. Probably more NBA level talent on the bench this year than in ’97. I’d call this a push, but if I had to weigh in, I’d give the advantage to the ’97 team because, like Pollard said, they were older and more experienced.
MrOlathe
If Morris and Cole played together next year, they would be better than Raef and Pollard…but not yet. And I’d probably rather have Brady than Haase.
Glow1
Wow, Jojo, you are really putting your ass on the line with that one.
How about double or nothing on MIZ in the NIT this year?
Dexter Morgan
Get hip? How about get a life? Twitter is a fad, and one that has already lost a ton of steam.
Don’t confuse new with good.
Gavin
Greg why are you, like so many others, expecting Bill Self to go to the NBA? I’m not saying it won’t happen and if it does, it wouldn’t exactly be a surprise. But unsurprising doesn’t equal a done deal.
I know a lot of coaches want to see how they do at the highest level in their sport and everything, but if you look at how few college coaches make the transition successfully it’s not a very long list and that if you put Larry Brown as one of them. They make a lot of money, but if Self was after money he could have gotten an enormous raise to take over at Oklahoma State. At KU he will be treated as a god until he retires (as long as he keeps being successful) but in the NBA he’d be treated like an employee and babysitter to a bunch of athletes who are wealthier than him until he gets fired (which happens to all NBA coaches unless they’re on the level of Phil Jackson).
Again, I’m not saying he won’t go coach in the league, but why does everyone have this certainty that is going to happen?
Oh, and jojo, what kind of odds are you giving me. if I’m giving you 64 teams and you’re giving me one, you need to pay for the privilege. But depending on the odds you give me, I’ll bet a hundred bucks (sorry, I don’t bet what I can’t afford to lose) as long as you give me a side bet of another hundred bucks that KU makes it farther than your Big Ten-bound Tigers in the tournament. We don’t need to escrow the money, we can just let Greg Hall hold it for us.
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GH: Coaches just eventually retire or move on…very few remain in place for 15-20 years anymore. Self is too young to retire and I believe he would enjoy the challenge that the NBA would bring.
jojo the dog face boy
Wow what a load of crap – lets see $1000 bet of KU vs. the field – such a big risk there!
Tell you what dog boy – I will bet $1000 KU wins a national championship before MU makes a final 4.
Put up or shut the fuck up dogboy.
can’t say
I’m still waiting for Jojo to full fill his bet with greg on the race. Jojo =bullsh*t.
Gavin
Greg, I agree with you that moast coaches retire or move on and that Self is too young to retire, but he is sort of a special situation, don’t you think? Most college coaches move on to better jobs but they stay in college. Mark Turgeon left Jackson State because Wichita State was a better job but he left WSU for Texas A&M because A&M is a better job. The difference for Self is that there are very few jobs that would be considered “better” than KU. That’s not bragging but it’s true of a select few programs like KU, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA, Duke and probably a few more. The coaches at THOSE gigs don’t tend to leave them easily unless they get fired or run out of town (Kentucky’s last two coaches being prime examples of those instances and Larry brown being noteworthy because he always leaves), Roy being another obvious exception. But it’s worth remembering that he left KU for another one of those jobs.
But once you get to one of those “pinnacle” gigs, the coaches tend to stay. Not always, as shown by Rick Pitino, but mostly those coaches leave those jobs by retiring or by termination, not by going to The League and not by taking another job in college.
rick
Gavin-see Pete, USC, and Seattle.
The real story here was Scott’s appearance on Soren’s program. He seems to have an association with 610 and obviously he had the fight with K.K. So I would love to know what the inside story is about him on Soren’s show.
Channel 9 revealed who(not a name) was buying the tickets. It was just one local guy. But I also heard a report that the community bought the ticket for him.
JimmyD
Calvin Rayford may have been quicker than Vaughn
Craig Glazer impostor
My old girlfriends say I was faster then J. Vaughn. That’s why they are old girlfriends.
Gavin
Rick,
You’re right about Pete Carroll leaving a “pinnacle” job for the pros, but I never said it didn’t happen. I never even said that Bill Self wouldn’t leave. All I’m saying is that it isn’t often that someone leaves a job like UCLA to take a “better” job or even, all that frequently, to go to the professional league in his sport. Most of the time those coaches leave those jobs because they retire or get fired.
And with Pete Carroll you could make the case that he was hightailing it out of USC because he knew the NCAA cops would soon be knocking on his door. There is little doubt that his AD was going to be on the hot seat and there are still a lot of publicly unanswered questions about, among other things, Reggie Bush. With the likelihood of some self-imposed penalties as well as the possibility of NCAA-imposed probation, leaving now was pretty good timing, if you want to look at it cynically. Also, Carroll had been a failure (or at least a mediocrity) when he’d been to the NFL and it’s possible that he had an itch to get back and prove he could do it. Which Bill Self admittedly might also have in one form or another.
If anyone had the time to figure out how many high-level college coaches leave high-level programs to take a different college gig or “go league” and figure out how successful they were at the job they took, it would be interesting. I have no idea, but I’d bet that it doesn’t happen that often and when it does, it’s not typically a successful venture at the new place.
JimmyD, that is an impressive pull. Calvin Rayford in the wayback machine!
nick
I’d take the ’97 team over the ’10 season at this time of the season.
But by early March I think I might pick the ’10 team because of the bench and I know Bill will have them tough by then.
Pollard’s sounding a tad cocky, especially considering he was held scoreless in that devastating loss. And Lafrentz scored 2 points in the first half in that game. I can’t imagine a Self team having his 2 best inside guys held to just 2 points in the opening half.
Roy’s very early teams were fearless with guys like Adonis Jordan, Rex Walters, Alonzo Jamison, Mark Randall, Steve Woodberry, Richard Scott…
I loved the ’97 team, but most of the guys were a little reserved and/or hesitant. Jaque was GREAT, but wasn’t a scorer. Pollard and Lafrentz got out-toughed sometimes. And Pierce always seemed like he could be much more aggressive scoring.
The toughest most aggressive guy on that team was Haase, and he had a wrist injury to deal with.
Enos Slaughter
Dick Kaegel is what you would call old-school. From another era–the one in which the beat writer considered himself a quasi-employee of the team he covered. He was that way in St. Louis with the P-D, he was that way in KC with the Star, and now he has made the relationship more formalized with his MLB.com job. Every time I read his byline, my mind sees black-and-white stock footage of Stan Musial and Marty Marion, and I feel I should be wearing a straw hat.
JimmyD
I’m pretty sure Jacque Vaughn does not like girls
Johnny Utah
Did Soren ask Pollard how his last game as a Jayhawk was? I can remind the peanut gallery: Pollard, zero points, fouled out vs. Arizona, and he could be seen laughing about something under his towel over his head.
I know I wasn’t laughing then.
Unforgivable.
bschloz
My vote is for the 1974 team
Really…I would love to see
Sherron try and stop Tom Kivisto
Or good luck for the Morris twins
trying to check Dale Greenlee.
rick
Gavin-concur.
Jimmy Johnson one of the few coach’s to have a successful pro career after a successful college with a high ranking team. Don’t really count Switzer because he was just taking over the status quo.
nick
How about the ’86 KU team?
Cedric Hunter, Greg Dreiling, Ron Kellogg, Calvin Thompson, Danny Manning and a decent backup at guard, a guy named Mark Turgeon.
Gavin
Rick, those were the only two I could come up with that were even reasonably successful and I agree with you about discounting whatever Switzer accomplished. But for every Jimmy Johnson there are eight PJ Carlesimos, four Mike Montgomerys and two Bobby Petrinos. Not to mention Steve Spurrier, Rick Pitino and John Calipari.
Nick Saban, while wholly loathsome, is an undeniably great college coach, but he was about as bad as Gunther Cunningham at the NFL and I predict he will be at Alabama for a really long time. Once you get a job like ‘Bama, you don’t quit. At least not often. Saban could be the one that proves Greg Hall’s point, though, about Bill Self. Again, I don’t know if it will happen or not, but if Self leaves KU and coaches the OKC Thunder (for example) and washes out of the NBA, I won’t be too surprised to see him one day coaching his alma mater.
rick
Gavin-again concur. And just for the record. I see Self as a lifer unless someone makes him angry or some sort of violations found. I by no means meant to imply I agreed with Greg’s thought. Just throwing names out there.
Jayhawk Fan
There so much stupidity here today, that I am not even going to start commenting, but it is very amusing to see ya’ll so in love with my MIGHTY KANSAS JAYHAWKS MENS BASKETBALL, but ya’ll are unable to come right out and say it., so you do all these twists and turns and speculation….
yawn … pretty funny.
Just get on the bandwagon (which I have been on NONSTOP for 40 years) it is a hellava ride, the more the merrier : )
rick
Huh?
JF
what?
rick
Twists? Turns?
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Twister
rick Says:
January 28th, 2010 at 5:39 pm
Twists? Turns?
As opposed to just saying how great the MIGHTY KANSAS JAYHAWKS MENS BASKETBALL TEAM looks this year …. they will talk about EVERYTHING ELSE, except that ….. duurrrrr ….. duh, they talk about Bill Self leaving, they compare this team to the atmoshere on Mars, they twiddle our fingers, offer up stupid bets …. twisting turning …. ANYTHING besides saying how good we look, it is funny.
I admire KSU for knocking off Tx at #1, but ……
mu sucks donkey balls, that stupid jrBIG 12 school has never done a freeking thing, EVER.
( I made a deal if KSU knocked off Tx, that I would direct all negative comments meant for KSU at moronU instead, for the rest of this season, and I am a man of my word ; )
JoJo
big talkers…no walkers…forget it
gayhawk fans…no final 4…bet on it..
I’ve gotten no action…what the hells
the matter with you pussies…
put up or shut up…lets so how you stand
behind what you say…
also…can’t say…you pop up recently
under another name. I will race baldy
in any race…but you are a loser.
Not one good thing ever said.
Hearne…you are a loser.
JoJo
yawn…can we please talk about something
interesting.. this talk from the gayhawks
is getting boring…maybe they can talk
about getting a job…or maybe they can
get a new job making more that $8 an
hour.
Give me a break. You beakers are full of
sh*t and only come out in the winter.
Are you lawrence people as queer as they
say. Do you like all those trannies walking
thru your city. Gay friendly because most of
the guys there are gay….no wonder no one
takes my bet…they couldnt get $`1000 together
if their life depended on it.
JoJo
jayhawk fan…40 years..how old are you
old man…50? Thats the average age at
a ku game.
Facts
http://www.kuathletics.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/012810aac.html
Kansas has won 38 of the last 40 meetings with Kansas State dating back to the 1994 season.
The Jayhawks hold a 177-90 all-time series advantage over the Wildcats, including a 72-44 mark in games played in Manhattan and a 20-1 record in Bramlage Coliseum. Since 1984, Kansas is a mindboggling 25-1 in games played in Manhattan.
From Feb. 2, 1994, Kansas won 31 straight against Kansas State before the Wildcats halted the streak with a 59-55 victory in Allen Fieldhouse on Jan. 14, 2006.
Since the inception of the Big 12, KU holds a 30-2 record against Kansas State
JoJo
$1000 SAY KU DOESN’T WIN CHAMPIONSHIP.
any takers or are you just talkers on
a blog?
Get in your cell Otis
geeezz, shut the fuck up already. You think you own this place? when you are actually the town drunk, babbling BS.
OK Otis, we heard you, now get in your cell and sleep it off.
Every bridge needs a troll,
every town needs its town drunk, but most town drunks at least stop repeating the same stupid drunken talk, sooner or later.
This guy is the town drunk and bridge troll combined.
rick
ok I see what u are saying now twister/jf.
can’t say
I’ll put $50 that Jojo never races Hall. I put another $50 that if he does he’ll lose. Any takers?
Jojo who spends wayyyyyyyyyyyyy to much time talking about gay crap said I popped up recently. Yes, that was when your mouth was going down on me.
Recent famous Jojo quotes “Let’s so how you stand behind” With that writing you must of went to MU. “I got no action” Not surprising!! See if the fish lady will help u out?
JoJo impostor
I’m sorry I can’t respond. I have a slurpee machine to fix.
Can’t say
Obviously another gay reference.
Jojo
hey can’t say. Get some real money. Get some
big money and lets see what you’ve got.
Just insulting me without a single post here
to say something intelligent.
$50? give me a break loser. You are a queer.
Do something yourself. You said you wanted to
watch me run. That scares me. Because you
are a loser.
Now…bet on something you can do. I know you
are a slob. Bring on something that we can
bet on and lets go.
Losers like you are a dime a dozen.
$50..is that your daily paycheck loser?
$50…i wouldnt get out of bed for $50…
to me thats lunch money.
To you…that 2 packs of beer. Now get
back to work before you get fired for
sleeping on the job…
I own you loser. You read every post i put
on here. You reply to every word i print.
YOu are a loser..plain and simple.
As dexter said..I own you and you’re a loser.
Jojo
Still no takers on my $1000. come on ku fans!
Can’t Say
Another Saturday morning 8AM comment from Jojo. Guess another lonely Friday night where you were in bed by 9. Hope you didn’t kill another Hamster. Put up your money Jojo or shut the F up! And you’re telling the truth. Your mom told me you won’t get out of bed for $50.00. She says your jobless butt won’t get out of bed except to eat, crap, change the channel, or write stupid sh*t on the computer. Hey why don’t you get a job and find a girl. Stop being a mooch. Their is my intelligent post to you. Get a LIFE son!!! Don’t spend all your days and nights writing Hearne, Greg, Me. Sharing your male on male desires. Take some college classes to make up for that poor MU education you got. Maybe you’ll learn to really debate someone and have intelligent conversation instead of just calling them gay names. Your mom says that she’d be amazed if you would run because its hard just to get you to walk. Stop watching Dexter, Star Trek and Wheel Of fortune. Do something productive in your life. Show you are a man and race Greg. Then see if you can lose some weight and maybe get on biggest loser. That name fits you. Good luck. I’ll continue to try to motivate your sorry as*.
JoJo’s dad
Now you know why I left home when he was only 4. I knew then he wouldn’t amount to much. Fing Dexter about a serial killer cop. Geez…. Nice to know the time God has given you on this green earth is going to some useful activities. Me and your mom are soooooooo proud.
JoJo impostor
$50 on me to race any takers or just talkers on this blog?
JUST STOP
Looks like the retarded kid got his butt kicked again.
Obvioulsy
Can’t say knows Jojo as many of us do. That was the best post I’ve ever read.
Uncle Nick
“Hope you didn’t kill the hamster” FREAKIN CLASSIC RACK EM
Uncle Dick
Yeah, he went through all the gerbils at Petsmart, in fact, now they keep them behind the counter like Sudefed at the drug store.
Jojo
Fuck all you losers.
Its time to put up or shut up can’t say.//
Lets see what you come up with. Bet $1000
on something we agree on…sports…anything..
winner takes aLLL…..LETS GET GOING LOSER.
Jojo
Hey uncle dick…lickin some balls tonite
with your gay buddies like can’t say.
You all are stalking me like convicts.
I post and you try to come back..
fact is that noone has matched me on the
bet…noone has debated any point i’ve
made…
you all are obsessed with me and I’m
loving it.
Every post hereis a reaction to my
posts. The last 6 posts were a reaction to
my post…not the story on here…not
to my bet for anyone to take.
Any of you got $1000? Lets see you bet it.
I’m even going to better the vegas odds
(7-4) on a bety….so come on losers…
I’m makingthe bet sweeter and we’ll meet
at yourb ank (if you have one)…and
lets see who’s the best.
Can;’t say…keep responding to my posts…
I said it…dextre morgan siad it…
I OWN TGHIS BLOG..I OWN THIS POST..I OWN
YOU LOSERS AND ALL YOU DO IS REACT TO WHAT
I SAY AND DO BECAUSE YOU ARE LOSERS.
aT 8AM I WENT TO WORK OUT…WHAT ARE
YOU FAT F*CK DOING AT 8AM…AND I DID
HAVE A GREAT TIME …
yOU ALL ARE FOLLOWERS..LOSERS…FREAKS…
STALKERS…AND VERY VERY STUPID.
i DONT NEED MOTIVATION…i am doing very
very well in life…
Lets go losers…stop talking …lets
go.
and i will race hall…get a time and a
place…….AND i want can’t say in there
too…lets see this fat fucking stalking
freak in person.
Jojo
can’t say can’t say anything intelligent.
Its obviously someone who has been on
here a long time because the bet was made
way back in September…so the fat loser
obviusly is trying to make a point
without putting up his name.
Come on…what t f*ck were you doing online
here at 1pm….jacking off to porn i’m sure.
Uncle Dick
Are you kidding, we know exactly what to say to set you off on one of your little rants. Based on all your gay comments, it is obvious you have latent homosexual tendencies coupled by low self esteem. The only things you own are a size small athletic cup and a pair of your mom’s used underwear.
Now we know why Roeder shot Tiller. He found out Tiller fucked up jojo’s mom’s abortion.
Can’t say
Yeah Jojo the race was made in sept and you still haven’t run it. COWARD!!! Also 1PM is not 1AM go back to grade school to figure out your time and how clocks work. LOSER.
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